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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 1, 2024 14:03:04 GMT -5
Not a huge Millar fan but I really enjoyed his run on Superman Adventures in the '90s. Man wrote some superb family-friendly done-in-ones.
Cei-U!
I summon the animation-style awesomeness!
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Post by chaykinstevens on Nov 1, 2024 15:15:29 GMT -5
I think the idea came from Dave Thorpe, who wrote Captain Britain before Alan Moore, not from an editor. Apparently he was editor on Daredevils, which Moore wrote. It was his idea, but it first saw print in that comic. Bernie Jaye edited the Daredevils. |
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Post by rich on Nov 1, 2024 16:09:33 GMT -5
Apparently he was editor on Daredevils, which Moore wrote. It was his idea, but it first saw print in that comic. Bernie Jaye edited the Daredevils. If you wondered how I made that mistake: "The 616 designation was first mentioned in the UK comicDaredevils #7, starring Captain Britain by Alan Moore and artist Alan Davis, with editor Dave Thorpe being credited with coming up with the number. 616 was said to be chosen because Thorpe wasn't a fan of superheroes, with the number's true meaning being a variation of the number of the beast (616) from the Book of Revelation." screenrant.com/marvel-earth-616-name-true-meaning-revealed/ |
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Post by rich on Nov 1, 2024 16:10:40 GMT -5
By the way, Thorpe himself said it was bullshit that he disliked superheroes and that nothing could be further from the truth. He liked the 666 link because he was into Chaos Magic (like Moore, Morrison etc).
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 1, 2024 17:17:35 GMT -5
I enjoyed the first Civil War with Millar also. Egads! The concept alone was enough to dislike Civil War. I've "hated" very few comics in my life... fewer than a handful... but Wanted was one I genuinely hated, as I mentioned on this board once before. That even had a very decent artist on it. He also managed to write a Wolverine comic I hated. Pretty much that makes of 50% of all the comics I ever hated. Haha! I have known people that like Millar's writing in general, but still said Wanted was the worst comic they ever read. haha. This series was ugly. It's ugly to consider that our heroes could be locked up without their rights. Maybe that's why you didn't like it. |
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Post by rich on Nov 1, 2024 17:46:34 GMT -5
Egads! The concept alone was enough to dislike Civil War. I've "hated" very few comics in my life... fewer than a handful... but Wanted was one I genuinely hated, as I mentioned on this board once before. That even had a very decent artist on it. He also managed to write a Wolverine comic I hated. Pretty much that makes of 50% of all the comics I ever hated. Haha! I have known people that like Millar's writing in general, but still said Wanted was the worst comic they ever read. haha. This series was ugly. It's ugly to consider that our heroes could be locked up without their rights. Maybe that's why you didn't like it. It's been a long time since I passed any thought on the subject of Civil War. I happened to have a housemate that year who read comics, which is the only reason I had exposure to those comics- I got his second hand opinions- he liked it, though! I disliked the contrived and nonsensical superhero vs superhero set up. If you're talking about Wanted... I've managed to burn whatever happened in that comic from my memory. All that remains was the desire that I felt immediately after reading it to destroy it in some manner. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 1, 2024 18:24:33 GMT -5
This series was ugly. It's ugly to consider that our heroes could be locked up without their rights. Maybe that's why you didn't like it. It's been a long time since I passed any thought on the subject of Civil War. I happened to have a housemate that year who read comics, which is the only reason I had exposure to those comics- I got his second hand opinions- he liked it, though! I disliked the contrived and nonsensical superhero vs superhero set up. If you're talking about Wanted... I've managed to burn whatever happened in that comic from my memory. All that remains was the desire that I felt immediately after reading it to destroy it in some manner. I still have the wanted books. I don’t remember much about it. |
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Post by rich on Nov 1, 2024 18:42:37 GMT -5
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Post by rich on Nov 1, 2024 18:48:32 GMT -5
By the way, I remain oblivious as to how Aunt May un-died after one of the best handled deaths in comics back in ASM #400.
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 1, 2024 19:02:05 GMT -5
By the way, I remain oblivious as to how Aunt May un-died after one of the best handled deaths in comics back in ASM #400. I think it was an actress that played the part. Yeah, I know. Is it any worse than Green Lantern not being responsible for killing the green lantern corps because of a yellow fear monster? |
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Post by Batflunkie on Nov 1, 2024 19:11:41 GMT -5
A quick 'there I said it'- I'd avoid anything Mark Millar is associated with. Is there anyone here that liked his post-1999 work? Huck was really good (basically his take on Superman), also liked Starlight from what little I've read It's weird that Millar's essentially made himself into a brand sold his soul to Netflix when he's probably one of the least interesting writers (creatively speaking) to grace the face of comics. That said, he does have good ideas, but that's about it |
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 1, 2024 20:50:55 GMT -5
Not a fan of Millar, too much for shock value and not good narrative motivation. I haven't read the Superman Adventures stuff, yet. I read when he took over The Authority and hated it, with a passion, because it was all shock and extreme stuff, and felt the same way about Ultimates, once Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch turned up and he implied incest and then as soon as the Hank and Jan stuff kicked off I was done. I also found his Captain America a bit too reactionary to be a product of the New Deal era and he retroactively applied too much of modern American politics onto someone from the 1940s. I also grew quickly disenchanted with the overly stretched stories and the whole decompressed nonsense and Hytch's art added to that.
Kick-Ass just underwhelmed me to no end. I wasn't overly keen on Ultimate X-Men, either. It just felt too much like it was trying to shoehorn the movies into it and lost the plot. It probably didn't help that I had followed X-Men off and on from the time that Claremont started on it and it is hard to compete with the classic run of things.
I tried Wanted and just couldn't give a @#$% about a single character in it.
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 1, 2024 20:55:42 GMT -5
By the way, Thorpe himself said it was bullshit that he disliked superheroes and that nothing could be further from the truth. He liked the 666 link because he was into Chaos Magic (like Moore, Morrison etc). The one British creator who I have heard that hated superheroes, unreservedly, confirmed by his colleagues, was Pat Mills and that heavily inspired the creation of Marshal Law. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 1, 2024 21:17:39 GMT -5
A quick 'there I said it'- I'd avoid anything Mark Millar is associated with. Is there anyone here that liked his post-1999 work? I liked some of Jupiter's Legacy (though he took it too far, as he does). There was a sci-fi-ish one of his I liked that I will need to look up the name of... Starlight that's the one. I thought Magic Order was intriguing but didn't grab me, I could go back to it some day on hoopla or something. Kingsman was a good movie  |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 1, 2024 21:19:34 GMT -5
By the way, I remain oblivious as to how Aunt May un-died after one of the best handled deaths in comics back in ASM #400. I think it was an actress that played the part. Yeah, I know. Is it any worse than Green Lantern not being responsible for killing the green lantern corps because of a yellow fear monster? I just disbelieve that one... so bad, and ruins so many good character beats if you don't just ignore it and pretend it didn't happen. |
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