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Post by dbutler69 on Apr 15, 2021 9:46:31 GMT -5
I miss the good old days when Batman and Superman actually liked each other. There, I said it! What's their current status? I'm still living in the post-Crisis universe. To be honest, I don't know what the current status is. DC reboots so often it's tough to keep track, but last I knew, they didn't care for each other. Could be different by now, but it seems like that was the status quo for decades, anyway.
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Post by shaxper on Apr 15, 2021 9:49:10 GMT -5
I miss the good old days when Batman and Superman actually liked each other. There, I said it! What's their current status? I'm still living in the post-Crisis universe. Whatever rift was originally created in the Post-Crisis was reconciled waaaay back in 1990, at a time in which Marv Wolfman and Alan Grant were both tempering Batman's fiery post-crisis angst in his own titles, too. However, the jaded, angry Batman continues to sell, as does using Superman as his goody-goody foil, so this conflict keeps resurfacing, no matter how many times it's put to bed.
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Post by tartanphantom on Apr 15, 2021 10:34:32 GMT -5
What's their current status? I'm still living in the post-Crisis universe. Whatever rift was originally created in the Post-Crisis was reconciled waaaay back in 1990, at a time in which Marv Wolfman and Alan Grant were both tempering Batman's fiery post-crisis angst in his own titles, too. However, the jaded, angry Batman continues to sell, as does using Superman as his goody-goody foil, so this conflict keeps resurfacing, no matter how many times it's put to bed.
But...But... how can they not be friends if they both have mothers named "Martha" ?
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Post by profh0011 on Apr 16, 2021 6:51:52 GMT -5
Martha Wayne FAKED her own death, took the money and moved to Smallville...
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Post by profh0011 on Apr 16, 2021 6:53:31 GMT -5
At the EC FAN-ADDICT group, a discussion about Robert Kanigher inspired the following comment from me...
"Arnold Drake told me Jack Schiff was (now how did he put this?) "the most honest editor he'd ever worked for". With what I know about Schiff from various other sources, I'm not really sure that was a compliment... or a CONDEMNATION of ALL THE OTHERS.
When I think about what Schiff did to Jack Kirby (which had the completely unintended side-effect of eventually making a THIRD-RATE OUTFIT like Marvel become the NUMBER ONE COMPANY in this rotten business), and then Mort Weisinger's later comments to Carmine Infantino when Carmine HIRED Kirby WITH A CONTRACT in 1970 ("...after what HE DID to MY FRIEND Jack Schiff???"), it becomes clear that DC was a hotbed for reprehensible, sociopathic attitudes and behavior, and compared to the others, Schiff's actions may have been low-key "business as usual".
And of course, a growing number of people online already know my attitude about that guy at Marvel who spent an entire decade trying to erase the fact that Kirby was A WRITER FIRST, an artist second.
(Boy, I'm in some kind of a mood this morning... heeheehee.)"
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Post by tartanphantom on Apr 16, 2021 9:35:32 GMT -5
Martha Wayne FAKED her own death, took the money and moved to Smallville...
That Earth-XYZ scenario would imply that Stan Lee took credit for plotted the storyline after speaking with Steve Ditko at the water cooler.
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Post by tingramretro on Apr 16, 2021 10:24:45 GMT -5
What's their current status? I'm still living in the post-Crisis universe. To be honest, I don't know what the current status is. DC reboots so often it's tough to keep track, but last I knew, they didn't care for each other. Could be different by now, but it seems like that was the status quo for decades, anyway. They've been starring in a team up title together for about the last two years. They're friends. Their friendship was restored by the time of Rebirth in 2016.
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Post by dbutler69 on Apr 16, 2021 15:44:56 GMT -5
To be honest, I don't know what the current status is. DC reboots so often it's tough to keep track, but last I knew, they didn't care for each other. Could be different by now, but it seems like that was the status quo for decades, anyway. They've been starring in a team up title together for about the last two years. They're friends. Their friendship was restored by the time of Rebirth in 2016. Good to know. I bet it won't last though.
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Post by Duragizer on Apr 17, 2021 18:26:52 GMT -5
They've been starring in a team up title together for about the last two years. They're friends. Their friendship was restored by the time of Rebirth in 2016. Good to know. I bet it won't last though. Nothing does in the nihilist wonderland that is the Big Two.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2021 12:24:36 GMT -5
For the first time in maybe 11 years, I might....MIGHT....order something from Mile High Comics.
Cuz I don't really have an alternative.
*grumbles about having to go to the Chuckster.....*
Incidentally, the last time I bought something back around 2010....it was (heavily) discounted and I got it for $56 I think, which was better than the going rate elsewhere. I checked its price today....$449, or around $225 if you use the 50% codeword.....
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 18, 2021 13:25:01 GMT -5
Maybe it was the era I was born in or my family's income, but I could never bring myself to pay more than about $30-35 for a single comic, when I was collecting. I just could not see the point of slapping down that much money for something that sold for less than a dollar and had a story in it. I broke that rule once, for Exciting Comics #9, the first appearance of the Black Terror, at Nedor. I always liked the character design and had seen some excerpts from one of the stories that Jerry Robinson and Mort Meskin had drawn. The comic was selling for $100 and I tried talking the guy down to $75 but eventually parted with the C-note. I then felt like an ass after I went to two other vendors who had other Golden Age comics for under $30. I could have had a handful of 1940s stories, instead of one, and a rather mediocre one at that. Robinson & Meskin came much later; the early bunch were more crudely drawn and the stories were pretty unimaginative and derivative. Never did it again.
Give me a massive lottery jackpot and I might do some stupid spending; but, I am still more likely to spend more money on a variety than a large amount for a single item.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2021 13:43:27 GMT -5
Maybe it was the era I was born in or my family's income, but I could never bring myself to pay more than about $30-35 for a single comic, when I was collecting. I just could not see the point of slapping down that much money for something that sold for less than a dollar and had a story in it. I broke that rule once, for Exciting Comics #9, the first appearance of the Black Terror, at Nedor. I always liked the character design and had seen some excerpts from one of the stories that Jerry Robinson and Mort Meskin had drawn. The comic was selling for $100 and I tried talking the guy down to $75 but eventually parted with the C-note. I then felt like an ass after I went to two other vendors who had other Golden Age comics for under $30. I could have had a handful of 1940s stories, instead of one, and a rather mediocre one at that. Robinson & Meskin came much later; the early bunch were more crudely drawn and the stories were pretty unimaginative and derivative. Never did it again. Give me a massive lottery jackpot and I might do some stupid spending; but, I am still more likely to spend more money on a variety than a large amount for a single item.
I'd only slap down (big) money on a book if I have a reasonable expectation that I can at least get it back if I choose to resell it. That's where speculation can become useful and make the hobby help pay for itself.
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Post by Calidore on Apr 18, 2021 14:25:31 GMT -5
Maybe it was the era I was born in or my family's income, but I could never bring myself to pay more than about $30-35 for a single comic, when I was collecting. I just could not see the point of slapping down that much money for something that sold for less than a dollar and had a story in it. I broke that rule once, for Exciting Comics #9, the first appearance of the Black Terror, at Nedor. I always liked the character design and had seen some excerpts from one of the stories that Jerry Robinson and Mort Meskin had drawn. The comic was selling for $100 and I tried talking the guy down to $75 but eventually parted with the C-note. I then felt like an ass after I went to two other vendors who had other Golden Age comics for under $30. I could have had a handful of 1940s stories, instead of one, and a rather mediocre one at that. Robinson & Meskin came much later; the early bunch were more crudely drawn and the stories were pretty unimaginative and derivative. Never did it again. Give me a massive lottery jackpot and I might do some stupid spending; but, I am still more likely to spend more money on a variety than a large amount for a single item.
Yep. $30 for a single book or $30 for a box of randoms would be an easy call for me.
But that can also be a good incentive to trim down. I used to have a nearly complete collection of Doc Savage paperbacks, missing only a few of the later omnibus volumes, which had been sitting in storage for quite a while. About 20 years ago, when I checked eBay to see about filling in those missing ones, I saw they were generally going in the $40-50 range. As much as I enjoyed Doc Savage, I decided that there was no way I could pay that much for a single book...but I would happily accept that much for mine. I ended up auctioning the black-covered paperbacks as a complete set, and the white-covered double novels and 4-5 book omnibus volumes individually. Those white ones were the real gold--I remember getting around $100 for one, $80 for another, etc. I think I ended up scoring about a grand from them all told, plus I had over 100 fewer books taking up space.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 18, 2021 16:19:36 GMT -5
Maybe it was the era I was born in or my family's income, but I could never bring myself to pay more than about $30-35 for a single comic, when I was collecting. I just could not see the point of slapping down that much money for something that sold for less than a dollar and had a story in it. I broke that rule once, for Exciting Comics #9, the first appearance of the Black Terror, at Nedor. I always liked the character design and had seen some excerpts from one of the stories that Jerry Robinson and Mort Meskin had drawn. The comic was selling for $100 and I tried talking the guy down to $75 but eventually parted with the C-note. I then felt like an ass after I went to two other vendors who had other Golden Age comics for under $30. I could have had a handful of 1940s stories, instead of one, and a rather mediocre one at that. Robinson & Meskin came much later; the early bunch were more crudely drawn and the stories were pretty unimaginative and derivative. Never did it again. Give me a massive lottery jackpot and I might do some stupid spending; but, I am still more likely to spend more money on a variety than a large amount for a single item.
I'd only slap down (big) money on a book if I have a reasonable expectation that I can at least get it back if I choose to resell it. That's where speculation can become useful and make the hobby help pay for itself.
Yeah, that I can see, provided you are pretty sure of a quick turnaround and profit. I was just never one for speculating. I was always about reading and enjoying the art; so, I always looked for a bargain price and wasn't overly picky about condition, provided price was reasonable for condition and the comic was intact and readable. I don't recall picking up anything that was less than good condition. I was also lucky in that most of what I was interested in, when I was collecting, was available at relatively low prices, before speculators drove the market nuts. I got a lot of Bronze Age DC and Marvel for 50 cents to a buck and a lot of Silver Age (other than key issues) for $3 or less. $5 was at the high end of a lot of what I picked up, and $10 for the more collectible issues. I think the most I paid for Silver Age was about $30-35, for the Strange Tales debut of Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD. I had gotten all of the Steranko issues for under $20 and most for under $10. Back then, it was early Marvel and DC and stuff like the X-Men key issues that had what I considered insane prices. Once the speculator boom started to really hit, they started jumping up all over the place. I was mostly done with my back issue collecting, by that point, having fulfilled favorite stories, artists or characters. I did end up selling some Bronze Age Marvel and financed an entire month's new comics, unloading Starlin Captain Marvels (I had the trade collection), Deathlok issues, and Guardians of the Galaxy. When I did sell off the valuable parts of my collection, I didn't make a fortune, since I had a lot of mid-grade and I was looking to unload in bulk, due to lack of time to devote to selling piecemeal for better deals and not really caring that much about making a big profit. I ended up donating the majority of my collection (minus mature readers books) to a boys home, where a friend volunteered. It was primarily post-1984 material, with few really valuable items in there, at the time.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 21, 2021 14:52:47 GMT -5
Almost half-way through a re/initial read of 100 Bullets (last time I bogged down about 1/4 of the way through). There's a whole lot to like here. But DAMN it just takes me completely out of a story when I see stuff like prisoner transfers that are 100% WRONG!
They have a bus bringing new inmates in to a prison. The bus says "Sheriff." Extremely unlikely but I can let it slide. The prisoners are all in civilian clothes. No way. They'd be in jail stripes. Prisoners are handcuffed with hands in front of them. OH Hell to the no! They'd be in belly chains and leg chains. Nobody gets handcuffed in front. You always handcuff with hands behind the back. Drives me nuts every time.
There. I said it.
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