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Post by Batflunkie on Jan 20, 2021 10:24:58 GMT -5
I’m reading the Busiek/Perez run of the Avengers and notice that Captain America went through a period where he didn’t have his shield, he has some energy device that turned into a shield. That was a crappy time. Cap without a shield looks visually boring. There I said it. I like the idea of an energy shield, but I think it worked better on Walker during his stint in Force Works I imagine a new reader looking for material they saw on tv or movies stuff like Cap without his shield or Superman having electric powers could be confusing I'm still surprised that they haven't adapted Superman Red/Blue yet. I mean if they can adapt The Death and Return Of Superman anything's possible
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 15:04:41 GMT -5
I imagine a new reader looking for material they saw on tv or movies stuff like Cap without his shield or Superman having electric powers could be confusing I'm still surprised that they haven't adapted Superman Red/Blue yet. I mean if they can adapt The Death and Return Of Superman anything's possible I think now that they've finished up the connected New 52ish universe and have moved towards single story animated films, they could do a Red/Blue adaptation more easily. I'd rather see that than another Superman origin (I'm looking at you Superman: Man of Tomorrow).
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 21, 2021 7:37:49 GMT -5
I've got a story ain't got no moral Let the bad guy win every once in a while
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Post by brutalis on Jan 21, 2021 7:52:50 GMT -5
I've got a story ain't got no moral Let the bad guy win every once in a while Technically don't the villains always win since they keep returning?
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Post by kirby101 on Jan 21, 2021 8:28:03 GMT -5
I've got a story ain't got no moral Let the bad guy win every once in a while Daredevil #7 and Fantastic Four #87
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2021 8:36:59 GMT -5
I’m reading the Busiek/Perez run of the Avengers and notice that Captain America went through a period where he didn’t have his shield, he has some energy device that turned into a shield. That was a crappy time. Cap without a shield looks visually boring. There I said it. In Cap's own title, Waid's ham-fisted "Oh my God, it's like I lost my right arm" routine during this period did nothing to endear me to the idea of the substitute shield.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Jan 21, 2021 12:24:57 GMT -5
I've got a story ain't got no moral Let the bad guy win every once in a while Will it go 'round in circles? Will it fly high like a bird up in the sky?
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Post by Batflunkie on Jan 21, 2021 22:14:00 GMT -5
I've got a story ain't got no moral Let the bad guy win every once in a while Technically don't the villains always win since they keep returning? Who are these parole officers that keep letting people like Doctor Octopus and Captain Cold out of jail?
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Post by Confessor on Jan 21, 2021 23:05:39 GMT -5
Technically don't the villains always win since they keep returning? Who are these parole officers that keep letting people like Doctor Octopus and Captain Cold out of jail? I can't speak for Captain Cold, but more often than not Dr. Octopus breaks out of jail, he isn't released.
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Post by Batflunkie on Jan 21, 2021 23:24:45 GMT -5
Who are these parole officers that keep letting people like Doctor Octopus and Captain Cold out of jail? I can't speak for Captain Cold, but more often than not Dr. Octopus breaks out of jail, he isn't released. Snart/Cold can probably use his cold gun to put the prison bars in a deep freeze and just brake them off in chunks
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 22, 2021 0:07:29 GMT -5
That was one of the nice things about the silver age... at least the super villains had to break out of prison now and then to get back in the book.
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Post by badwolf on Jan 22, 2021 11:42:54 GMT -5
In the one Flash comic I had as a kid, Captain Cold faked his own death and then escaped from the morgue.
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Post by The Captain on Jan 25, 2021 19:39:25 GMT -5
Been re-reading BMB's New Avengers run this week, as I needed something light after piling through a lot of Alan Moore Swamp Thing.
After getting through issue #48 just last night, I can say that the "Secret Invasion" issues of the NA series are some of the worst things I've ever read. Everything is a stupid retcon, like the Illuminati existing as a group or them being prisoners of the Skrulls at some previously-unknown point in the past which is where the Skrulls got the idea (from Reed Richards' brain, of all places) for how to keep people from being able to detect them on Earth. It just keeps going further and further down a weird rabbit trail to make all of the pieces fit into the puzzle.
When a story requires so much fudging of the past so that it can "work" in the present, maybe it isn't a story worth telling.
There. I said it.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 25, 2021 19:56:21 GMT -5
Been re-reading BMB's New Avengers run this week, as I needed something light after piling through a lot of Alan Moore Swamp Thing. After getting through issue #48 just last night, I can say that the "Secret Invasion" issues of the NA series are some of the worst things I've ever read. Everything is a stupid retcon, like the Illuminati existing as a group or them being prisoners of the Skrulls at some previously-unknown point in the past which is where the Skrulls got the idea (from Reed Richards' brain, of all places) for how to keep people from being able to detect them on Earth. It just keeps going further and further down a weird rabbit trail to make all of the pieces fit into the puzzle. When a story requires so much fudging of the past so that it can "work" in the present, maybe it isn't a story worth telling. There. I said it. I agree that the retcons of previous stories were annoying. They did some stuff with Hank Pym that didn't make sense. But New Avengers is light reading ?
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Post by The Captain on Jan 25, 2021 20:01:37 GMT -5
I agree that the retcons of previous stories were annoying. They did some stuff with Hank Pym that didn't make sense. But New Avengers is light reading ? Compared to Swamp Thing and Hellblazer (which I have also been reading lately), New Avengers is about as light as it gets. ST is metaphysical as all get out, and Hellblazer is very dark in places. It doesn't hurt that huge chunks of each NA issue are just art with one sentence per panel. Bendis is the master of the decompressed comic, where it takes six pages for two characters to decide that they are going to get Thai takeout from the restaurant on the corner.
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