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Post by kirby101 on Nov 27, 2020 18:48:14 GMT -5
Most fans adore the Alcala pages in SSOC. But you could see where John might have thought they were too different from his pencils. They were as much Alcala as Buscema. The synergy was beautiful to most of us.
As for Chan. Roy thought they brought an ornateness to the book, that would echo what Barry Smith did. I thought they just looked scratchy and over inked.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 27, 2020 19:06:24 GMT -5
I’m a huge Alcala fan, so I’m more than fine with his inks being somewhat overpowering.
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Post by berkley on Nov 27, 2020 19:19:41 GMT -5
I see a huge difference between Ernie Chua/Chan's two stints as inker on Conan: in the first one he used a rough, scratchy style but throughout the second run that started around the #70s or a bit earlier and went on past #100, his inks look very smooth and clean to me.
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Post by kirby101 on Nov 27, 2020 20:03:13 GMT -5
I see a huge difference between Ernie Chua/Chan's two stints as inker on Conan: in the first one he used a rough, scratchy style but throughout the second run that started around the #70s or a bit earlier and went on past #100, his inks look very smooth and clean to me. Worth a second look by me.
Yes, I see what you mean, though I still thinks it doesn't align with Buscema's style. But it is a nicer ink line than the earlier books
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 29, 2020 7:23:25 GMT -5
I just realized how awesome this cover is: 1. Both monsters are wearing shorts 2. Fin Fang Foom is throwing a karate chop 3. The title is Five claws of death
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Post by brutalis on Nov 29, 2020 11:30:00 GMT -5
I just realized how awesome this cover is: 1. Both monsters are wearing shorts 2. Fin Fang Foom is throwing a karate chop 3. The title is Five claws of death And it is GIANT monsters causing massive levels of destruction and mayhem. It, the Colossus using a telephone pole as a weapon! All a child (or adult) really wants or needs in a comic book. Bright colorful silly fun without all the dark overwrought depressing crapola of todays comics. And they wonder why modern comic book sales are down?
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 29, 2020 12:01:29 GMT -5
I just realized how awesome this cover is: 1. Both monsters are wearing shorts 2. Fin Fang Foom is throwing a karate chop 3. The title is Five claws of death And it is GIANT monsters causing massive levels of destruction and mayhem. It, the Colossus using a telephone pole as a weapon! All a child (or adult) really wants or needs in a comic book. Bright colorful silly fun without all the dark overwrought depressing crapola of todays comics. And they wonder why modern comic book sales are down? And, the guy running away is wearing yellow!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2020 12:44:02 GMT -5
THE UNTOLD LEGEND OF THE BATMAN is one of the best prequel stories ever. Or, at the very least, better than any other Batman prequel tales that came aftwards.
There, I said it.
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Post by kirby101 on Nov 29, 2020 13:50:07 GMT -5
Had to look up that Astonishing Tales cover. Larry Leiber, Stan's bro was always capable of a good cover.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 5, 2020 18:38:01 GMT -5
I’m trying to remember if I ever liked a book that was drawn my Carmine Infantino. Ever.
There I said it.
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Post by berkley on Dec 5, 2020 19:02:57 GMT -5
I’m trying to remember if I ever like a book that was drawn my Carmine Infantino. Ever. There I said it.
I feel much the same way, though I admit not having seen much of his interior work fom the 60s, and I do like a lot of the covers he did with Murphy Anderson.
I have seen a fair bit of his 70s work for Marvel, though, and I dislike it now as much as I did then.
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Post by brutalis on Dec 5, 2020 19:04:07 GMT -5
I’m trying to remember if I ever like a book that was drawn my Carmine Infantino. Ever. There I said it. There needs to a dislikes button for that comment! Infantino gave readers plenty to love and admire over the years. His 80's work is markedly different from his 70's work which is vastly different from his 60's work so there has to be something in there for you to like Icc. Try some Adam Strange or Flash or Batman. If that can't do it then dig further back to his earliest endeavors before he settled into his very sharp angular stylized visualization. For me, I adore ALL his work over the years but I can admit other's may not find as much to like as I do.
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Post by berkley on Dec 5, 2020 19:19:37 GMT -5
I’m trying to remember if I ever like a book that was drawn my Carmine Infantino. Ever. There I said it. There needs to a dislikes button for that comment! Infantino gave readers plenty to love and admire over the years. His 80's work is markedly different from his 70's work which is vastly different from his 60's work so there has to be something in there for you to like Icc. Try some Adam Strange or Flash or Batman. If that can't do it then dig further back to his earliest endeavors before he settled into his very sharp angular stylized visualization. For me, I adore ALL his work over the years but I can admit other's may not find as much to like as I do. Sometimes it's just a matter of tastes or personal aesthetics. There are several classic comcis artists whose style Ive never taken to, though their talent and accomplishments are beyond question. Joe Kubert, for example: I find his figures excessively lean and loose-limbed, while his shading technique looks overly sparse and unfinished to my eyes. Every ow and then I'll see something I like most of the time his art is a negative rather than a positive factor for me.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 5, 2020 19:29:50 GMT -5
I will qualify my last statement and say he did some covers that were nice. His interior work always seemed like it was for fill-in stories. Sorry Bro.
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Post by brutalis on Dec 5, 2020 19:40:17 GMT -5
Taste is subjective and personal so sometimes there is no accounting for it.
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