Confessor
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Post by Confessor on Jul 10, 2020 17:44:19 GMT -5
Peter Parker: The Spectacular Spider-Man is a much better title for the comic that plain ol' The Spectacular Spider-Man. There! I said it. I agree. I’m as interested in the man behind the mask as the mask itself. Having Parker’s name included in the title of the comic makes sense on so many levels. I think that's why I prefer that title; originally the comic was conceived to tell stories that focused in on Peter's civilian life a little more than ASM did. So, from that point of view, the "Peter Parker" prefix actually makes that subtle difference in focus explicit in the title of the comic itself.
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Post by Batflunkie on Jul 10, 2020 17:47:51 GMT -5
I agree. I’m as interested in the man behind the mask as the mask itself. Having Parker’s name included in the title of the comic makes sense on so many levels. I think that's why I prefer that title; originally the title was conceived to tell stories that focused in on Peter's civilian life a little more than ASM did. So, from that point of view, the "Peter Parker" prefix actually makes that subtle difference in focus explicit in the title of the comic itself. Wait, so, I'm confused. Wasn't the whole point of Spider-Man from the very beginning supposed to tell a story of dweeby teen gifted powers by a radioactive spider and how he deals with said powers in his day to day life? Why would you need another book for that?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 17:48:21 GMT -5
It’s just a shame that Web of Spider-Man didn’t focus more on Spidey’s webs than the man himself...
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Post by Batflunkie on Jul 10, 2020 17:54:06 GMT -5
It’s just a shame that Web of Spider-Man didn’t focus more on Spidey’s webs than the man himself... I'd totally read a "Punisher Armory" style book for Spidey, and I'm not even that big of a fan. Though I seriously doubt they could go much more in-depth than this
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Post by Confessor on Jul 10, 2020 18:01:53 GMT -5
I think that's why I prefer that title; originally the title was conceived to tell stories that focused in on Peter's civilian life a little more than ASM did. So, from that point of view, the "Peter Parker" prefix actually makes that subtle difference in focus explicit in the title of the comic itself. Wait, so, I'm confused. Wasn't the whole point of Spider-Man from the very beginning supposed to tell a story of dweeby teen gifted powers by a radioactive spider and how he deals with said powers in his day to day life? Why would you need another book for that? Well, quite. It was clearly just a way to get to another Spidey title on the shelves, and why not, it is a business after all. But I think that PP:TSSM did legitimately focus in on the soap opera elements inherent in Spidey's life more than other titles, at least for the first 5 years or so.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 18:11:59 GMT -5
It is nice when titles can have a different flavour. I can’t remember if I read this (maybe it was a dream), but I’m sure I read that there was an effort to make Detective Comics about, well, detective stories while using Batman for the more sensationalist and fantastical stories.
But I could be wrong. I may have imagined that.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 10, 2020 20:09:37 GMT -5
It is nice when titles can have a different flavour. I can’t remember if I read this (maybe it was a dream), but I’m sure I read that there was an effort to make Detective Comics about, well, detective stories while using Batman for the more sensationalist and fantastical stories. But I could be wrong. I may have imagined that. No, that was generally the case, up through the 1970s. That is why Detective featured more stories with other detective characters; costumed or civilian. Batman would cross paths with the likes of Ralph Dibny, Jason Bard, the mystery club group of detectives, Hawkman and others. The regular Batman series had more straightforward superhero stories. Action Comics and Superman had similar thematic differences, though less pronounced. Action would often showcase back-up stories of other heroes or adventurers, following a breezy Superman tale, while the Superman comic spent more time with the supporting cast and such.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 11, 2020 0:00:26 GMT -5
Peter Parker: The Spectacular Spider-Man is a much better title for the comic that plain ol' The Spectacular Spider-Man. There! I said it. I agree. I’m as interested in the man behind the mask as the mask itself. Having Parker’s name included in the title of the comic makes sense on so many levels. I agree too! Also, if you're going to have multiple titles for a character, they should be different for a reason.... like when they have one book focus on the supporting cast or whatever. If it's one story, make it one book. (I'm sure there are lots of marketing and business reasons why they don't, but it would make me happy).
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2020 6:16:23 GMT -5
Please correct any mistakes I may make, but didn’t John Byrne’s reboot follow a similar approach? If I remember correctly, Action Comics was the team-up book that was sort of a replacement for DC Comics Presents, The Adventures of Superman focused on Clark and his supporting cast while Superman was, erm, well just an action-packed Superman book.
It is good when multiple titles have their own “flavour”.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2020 7:13:21 GMT -5
I liked PP:TSSM. I miss that aspect in modern comics - the focus on the heroes "normal" life. Too much of modern comics focuses only on them being in their superhero ID. I'm not a fan of doing away with secret ID's since it negates them having a "normal" life.
I also liked when characters in multiple titles had a different emphasis in each title like Superman, Batman and Spider-Man did in the old days. I feel like this was introduced in the 60's and largely disappeared in the 80's.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2020 7:24:38 GMT -5
I don’t suppose there was a rationale behind the introduction of Web of Spider-Man and the adjective-less Spidey title. I presume they were more of a cash-in?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2020 7:26:01 GMT -5
It’s just a shame that Web of Spider-Man didn’t focus more on Spidey’s webs than the man himself... I see you are "gunning" for the funniest member award for next year...
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Post by brutalis on Jul 11, 2020 7:26:29 GMT -5
I liked PP:TSSM. I miss that aspect in modern comics - the focus on the heroes "normal" life. Too much of modern comics focuses only on them being in their superhero ID. I'm not a fan of doing away with secret ID's since it negates them having a "normal" life. I also liked when characters in multiple titles had a different emphasis in each title like Superman, Batman and Spider-Man did in the old days. I feel like this was introduced in the 60's and largely disappeared in the 80's. Truth! It was established early on and emphasized Superman was the "job" that he was doing and Clark Kent was the "life" and person which allowed Clark to being the best HERO he could be and if every hour spent was jim being Superman eventually he would change as a hero or mentally break down. In reality high stress jobs require all the more time for a personal life as a counter balance for healthy physical and mental stability.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2020 7:27:35 GMT -5
I don’t suppose there was a rationale behind the introduction of Web of Spider-Man and the adjective-less Spidey title. I presume they were more of a cash-in? I figured Marvel looked at DC's multiple Superman and Batman titles and decided it would work for them too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2020 7:31:05 GMT -5
Please correct any mistakes I may make, but didn’t John Byrne’s reboot follow a similar approach? If I remember correctly, Action Comics was the team-up book that was sort of a replacement for DC Comics Presents, The Adventures of Superman focused on Clark and his supporting cast while Superman was, erm, well just an action-packed Superman book. It is good when multiple titles have their own “flavour”. You are correct. Man I REALLY miss team up titles! Anyway I know many liked the triangle era of Superman (which led to Batman and Spider-Man doing the same thing). That took away the uniqueness of each title and made the 3-4 titles essentially a weekly.
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