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Post by hondobrode on Jun 25, 2016 14:39:45 GMT -5
Thanks Farrar ! Didn't know that either.
In fact, I know nothing about Mr Peter and am going to get that book.
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Post by chadwilliam on Jun 25, 2016 23:11:53 GMT -5
His work on Wonder Woman is deliberately designed to evoke the line art on ancient Greek pottery.
I had no idea, but wow, I can see that now! What an inspired idea! Thanks Cei-U!
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Post by chadwilliam on Jun 25, 2016 23:23:22 GMT -5
Not sure how well known this is but Peter was in his early 60s when he started with comic books. So if his stuff looks as though it were influenced by an earlier period it's likely due to his becoming an artist in the 19th century. Anyhow, count me amongst his fans. Yes; and also, Peter was specifically recruited by Marston and Mayer for the WW comic due to his experience in drawing suffrage cartoons that appeared in magazines/newspaper editorials. (Much more on his background can be found in Jill Lepore's fascinating book The Secret History of Wonder Woman.) And count me in as a Peter fan too!
I came across some reprints of Peter's Man 'O Metal strips in the following collection if anyone's interested:
The work is immediately recognizable as Peter's as I suppose it should be given the fact that it would have been drawn at the same time (or slightly earlier) as his Wonder Woman material. Here's a quick sample:
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Post by hondobrode on Jun 26, 2016 0:35:52 GMT -5
Yep.
Dat be his.
I have that book and still haven't read it.
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Post by Farrar on Jun 26, 2016 13:18:23 GMT -5
I came across some reprints of Peter's Man 'O Metal strips in the following collection if anyone's interested. The work is immediately recognizable as Peter's as I suppose it should be given the fact that it would have been drawn at the same time (or slightly earlier) as his Wonder Woman material. Here's a quick sample... I love Nadel's books! Speaking of books, Man O'Metal gets a page or two in Jon Morris's League of Regrettable SuperHeroes. And regrettably Morris refers to Peter as "Peters" in a couple of places.  |
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Post by hondobrode on Jun 27, 2016 8:30:21 GMT -5
I had to double check because I found myself doing that as well.
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Post by Farrar on Jun 27, 2016 12:45:45 GMT -5
No worries, hondo--we all occasionally make typos on message boards/forums. But I'd think that a manuscript for print publication would have, you know, gone through fact-checking and proofreading so that at a minimum people's names are spelled correctly. Not to mention in the Regrettable book the author didn't explain why some art that is clearly by Kurt Schaffenberger was attributed to Pete Costanza. Yes, I know Costanza's name was "signed" to the artwork in question years ago, but that's because Schaffenberger wanted to use a pen name at that time (he didn't want Weisinger to know he was moonlighting!). I would think that the author would make mention of this, but in the book he just credited Costanza as the creator of the Nemesis character. classiccomics.boards.net/post/110384/thread |
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Post by hondobrode on Jun 27, 2016 15:02:43 GMT -5
I totally understand what you're saying here Farrar. I'd bought The Art of Michael Golden at Planet Con and while staying at the hotel overnight thumbed through it and found 3 glaring mistakes. Very sloppy. I was shocked that his agent, former Marvel editor Renee Witterstaetter, was so sloppy. The next day I politely pointed out the areas that needed clarification and she throws her hands up and says, "So ! It's attack the editor! Is that it ?" Seriously ? and I was not attacking, but politely showing her. I'd spent upward of $ 500 with her and Mr. Golden the day before having polite conversation and she does this ! One of the things I pointed out was that Michael had a picture of this character in his book  note : fan art, not Michael Golden art If I, as, you know, an EDITOR, didn't know, I'd probably ask Michael. but she didn't probably and at the very least didn't get the name since the caption underneath read "some weird magic dude" "professional" ? and I can't believe Michael let it get by If I'm paying money, I want it accurate and professional, not crap, and then, at the very least, don't act like I'm attacking you when I point out your "professional" sloppiness. oy... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2016 15:34:29 GMT -5
I totally understand what you're saying here Farrar. I'd bought The Art of Michael Golden at Planet Con and while staying at the hotel overnight thumbed through it and found 3 glaring mistakes. Very sloppy. I was shocked that his agent, former Marvel editor Renee Witterstaetter, was so sloppy. The next day I politely pointed out the areas that needed clarification and she throws her hands up and says, "So ! It's attack the editor! Is that it ?" Seriously ? and I was not attacking, but politely showing her. I'd spent upward of $ 500 with her and Mr. Golden the day before having polite conversation and she does this ! One of the things I pointed out was that Michael had a picture of this character in his book (pic removed for space reasons by mrp)note : fan art, not Michael Golden art If I, as, you know, an EDITOR, didn't know, I'd probably ask Michael. but she didn't probably and at the very least didn't get the name since the caption underneath read "some weird magic dude" "professional" ? and I can't believe Michael let it get by If I'm paying money, I want it accurate and professional, not crap, and then, at the very least, don't act like I'm attacking you when I point out your "professional" sloppiness. oy... Editors in publishing are not generally copy editors, but content editors and project managers, copy editing and fact checking are usually other departments/people, and the first part of the process that gets eliminated by publishers when they need to trim production costs. Major publishing houses no longer even have copy editing departments and often it falls upon the author to hire an independent copy editor to go over his or her manuscript prior to submitting it to the publisher. Authors also often have to hire their own researchers/fact checkers as publishers do not often offer that kind of services. Many small press authors/creators simply cannot afford such services and not lose money on the print run of the project in today's market. Sucks, but that's pretty much the standard in the industry now, and things covered by fact checkers and copy editors are considered unimportant by the masses as a whole and our educational system, so don't expect standards to change or companies to put real money into such efforts any time in the foreseeable future. You will only continue to be disappointed and frustrated. -M |
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Post by sabongero on Jun 27, 2016 15:41:34 GMT -5
May I ask if anyone knows if Norrin Radd (Silver Surfer) has ever been reunited with Shala-Bal?
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Post by Crimebuster on Jun 27, 2016 16:24:57 GMT -5
This is not the first time I have heard bad things about Renee Witterstaetter.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jun 27, 2016 19:03:49 GMT -5
May I ask if anyone knows if Norrin Radd (Silver Surfer) has ever been reunited with Shala-Bal? That was the premise of the hundredth issues of SS Vol. 2. Though I can't say I remember if it were genuine or a hoax. |
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Post by Red Oak Kid on Jul 7, 2016 8:41:37 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2016 23:17:09 GMT -5
Lonestar has a listing for the 2 World's Finest issues hereand the copy mentions they were giveaways at Best Western hotels in 1997. The one they have in stock is prices @ $20 for a high grade copy. Lots of companies did comic book giveaways of older comics in new printings. I have a Pizza Hut giveaway of a Silver Age Batman replica edition (though this was done a lot earlier than the Best Western ones)  It's the exact same contents as the Batman #123 except for the Pizza Hut copy at the top of the cover. It's likely the hotel chain was giving them to families who booked rooms at the hotel for the kids to read while they stayed or something like that. -M |
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Post by hondobrode on Jul 8, 2016 8:04:51 GMT -5
I've got a Pizza Hut Wonder Woman from the 70's.
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