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Post by fanboystranger on Aug 4, 2015 13:31:21 GMT -5
I believe it has to do with higher royalty agreements from that timeframe which make niche reprints cost-prohibitive. The books that have been reprinted from the period have had the creators sign an amended royalty agreement which lowered the royalty rate. I'd imagine that the logistics of such agreements for CCC would be difficult since you're dealing with a bunch of different creators rather than a regular creative team. Haven't some individual stories appeared in collections? Yes, they have, but they've generally been creator-specific or themed collections. Again, this is just my hypothesis, but I'm betting that DC feels that the cost of a Cancelled Comics Calvacade collection would outweigh any potential profit that might come from the book. I know the royalty problem has plagued a few proposed releases in the past.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 4, 2015 19:54:45 GMT -5
I think I read somewhere that having to pay out royalties were what killed any thought of reviving the Malibu characters that Marvel bought in the 90's.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 21:34:05 GMT -5
For those of you who were buying comics off the newsstands in the latter 70s (I wasn't born yet) did you consider the 80 page DC Dollar Comics to be a great deal? I thought they were super when I first came across one in the early 90s. Of course, I had no idea they were listed under DC Special Series so it took a while to find them...
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Post by fanboystranger on Aug 4, 2015 21:44:01 GMT -5
I think I read somewhere that having to pay out royalties were what killed any thought of reviving the Malibu characters that Marvel bought in the 90's. That's generally the given reason. Malibu contracts were very much in the creators' favor, and while everyone but James Robinson did sign on with the Marvel deal, they basically painted themselves into a corner as far as making future uses of the characters cost prohibitive. Of course, Marvel really only wanted Malibu's coloring process and had some interest in Prime. The rest was just fodder.
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Post by DE Sinclair on Aug 5, 2015 11:49:00 GMT -5
For those of you who were buying comics off the newsstands in the latter 70s (I wasn't born yet) did you consider the 80 page DC Dollar Comics to be a great deal? I thought they were super when I first came across one in the early 90s. Of course, I had no idea they were listed under DC Special Series so it took a while to find them... I thought they were a good deal at the time. Also, as you may know, other series besides just DC Special Series went to the Dollar Comic format. My favorite was Adventure Comics with the JSA, Deadman, & others.
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Post by Trevor on Aug 5, 2015 12:18:10 GMT -5
I was a sucker for all of those Dollar Comics. Batman Family, Superman Family, Adventure, iirc Detective for a time. The ones I didn't buy then I'm frantically collecting now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2015 18:47:42 GMT -5
I thought they were a good deal at the time. Also, as you may know, other series besides just DC Special Series went to the Dollar Comic format. My favorite was Adventure Comics with the JSA, Deadman, & others. Yep, those were easier to find as they came under familiar titles like Batman Family, World's Finest etc...but the Special Series issues didn't have 'special series' on the cover so it took quite some time to find that Superman book above.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2015 22:13:03 GMT -5
I LOVED DC's Dollar Comics. I bought them all.
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Post by spoon on Aug 5, 2015 23:37:32 GMT -5
I believe it has to do with higher royalty agreements from that timeframe which make niche reprints cost-prohibitive. The books that have been reprinted from the period have had the creators sign an amended royalty agreement which lowered the royalty rate. I'd imagine that the logistics of such agreements for CCC would be difficult since you're dealing with a bunch of different creators rather than a regular creative team. Haven't some individual stories appeared in collections? A Firestorm TPB which includes his short-lived first series also includes the Firestorm story from CCC.
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Post by zilch on Aug 6, 2015 1:49:12 GMT -5
Batman Family ..., iirc Detective Detective Comics was combined with Batman Family, but a bit of a back story here... From what i've heard, there were some cancellations at the time and Detective was a poor selling title and was actually cancelled over the course of a weekend, but a lot of back office maneuvering had the better selling Batman Family combined with Detective to save the title for which the company was named.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 6, 2015 5:02:56 GMT -5
I see on the CCF front page a cover story about George Tuska. I always enjoyed his work, Is there any title that he was the regular artist for? I know he did some Iron Man but I'm not sure how many issues he did.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Aug 6, 2015 5:37:12 GMT -5
I see on the CCF front page a cover story about George Tuska. I always enjoyed his work, Is there any title that he was the regular artist for? I know he did some Iron Man but I'm not sure how many issues he did. Tuska provides pencils for the majority of Hero for Hire, returning for a brief stint when the title changes to Power Man. I really enjoyed his work there.
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Post by Trevor on Aug 6, 2015 6:18:56 GMT -5
Batman Family ..., iirc Detective Detective Comics was combined with Batman Family, but a bit of a back story here... From what i've heard, there were some cancellations at the time and Detective was a poor selling title and was actually cancelled over the course of a weekend, but a lot of back office maneuvering had the better selling Batman Family combined with Detective to save the title for which the company was named. Woah! That's sad that they almost cancelled Detective.
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Post by Cei-U! on Aug 6, 2015 7:20:43 GMT -5
George Tuska's career dates back to the Chesler shop in the late '30s, so he was turning out pages long before he worked for Marvel or DC. He was, among other things, one of the chief artists for Lev Gleason's seminal Crime Does Not Pay title. As far as back issues someone could actually afford, Tuska has pencilled issues of (off the top of my head and in no particular order) The Avengers, X-Men, Tales of Suspense, Sub-Mariner, Teen Titans and Justice League of America. He has also drawn newspapr comic strips including Buck Rogers and a long run of The World's Greatest Super-Heroes
Cei-U! I summon the Gorgeous one!
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Post by DE Sinclair on Aug 6, 2015 8:01:36 GMT -5
I thought they were a good deal at the time. Also, as you may know, other series besides just DC Special Series went to the Dollar Comic format. My favorite was Adventure Comics with the JSA, Deadman, & others. Yep, those were easier to find as they came under familiar titles like Batman Family, World's Finest etc...but the Special Series issues didn't have 'special series' on the cover so it took quite some time to find that Superman book above. I picked up another issue from the Special Series a couple of months ago: the Jonah Hex Spectacular. I found it at a flea market for a dollar. It wasn't bagged and had a serious spine roll, but other than that it was in pretty good shape. I've been pressing it in a big art book since I got it, and it's down to more of a gentle spine roll. One of these days I'll pull it out and finally read it.
By the way, your "Octopussy" avatar is excellent.
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