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Post by zaku on Sept 6, 2021 11:36:24 GMT -5
For what it's worth, I don't think Zatanna can be doing the 'reverse talking' thing. In #16 of her 2010 series, she fights a villain called Backslash who can briefly rewind time, and who keeps rewinding her as she speaks her spells, causing her words to come out forwards. She eventually defeats him by speaking her spells in palindromes, so that even if he rewinds her, they come out the same. This strategy could only work if the casting is based on spelling rather than pronunciation. (And can I just say again how much I appreciate this forum, where I can write something as geeky as this and not only have tolerated, but know that some folk might even find it interesting? ) Interesting!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2021 11:57:31 GMT -5
That series by Dini also showed Zee practicing with flash cards of words spelled backwards as she tried to increase the range of what she could do in times of stress. The backwards speaking was a technique she learned and practiced, not an inherent power or trait, and the more stressful the situation in which she had to do it, the more difficult it was to accomplish, so it showed her frequently practicing her technique so he could perform better and with acumen in combat or other stressful situations.
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Post by commond on Sept 14, 2021 18:05:45 GMT -5
Who was Nellie Rooke and whatever happened to her?
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Post by Ricky Jackson on Sept 14, 2021 18:16:50 GMT -5
Who was Nellie Rooke and whatever happened to her? According to Bob Rozakis "Nellie Rooke was a DC staffer who asked that her real name not be used in the books. It was not that she was actually someone whose name you would recognize, she merely preferred to remain anonymous. She long ago left DC and the comics industry." comicsbulletin.com/secret-identities-2/
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Post by foxley on Sept 15, 2021 7:47:47 GMT -5
Who was Nellie Rooke and whatever happened to her? According to Bob Rozakis "Nellie Rooke was a DC staffer who asked that her real name not be used in the books. It was not that she was actually someone whose name you would recognize, she merely preferred to remain anonymous. She long ago left DC and the comics industry." comicsbulletin.com/secret-identities-2/She was assistant editor on Jonah Hex under Ross Andru, and used to handle some (most?) of the letter column duties. She is actually credited as editor on one issue (#53), when I assume Ross wasn't available for some reason. I never knew the name was nom de plume though.
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Post by tonebone on Sept 20, 2021 13:04:46 GMT -5
You forgot this bizarre iteration from the Come Together miniseries in 1993. For some reason, Esteban Maroto decided Zee should abandon any connection to her previous costumes, or anything that marks her as a magician, and instead dress like a biker chick. And in the original art for that house ad, she wasn't wearing a t-shirt under that vest! I'm guessing editorial stepped in before it went to print. I don't know how to tell you this, but the original art and the printed art black lines are identical. But I can't fault you for wanting to see it that way!
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Post by badwolf on Sept 20, 2021 13:18:46 GMT -5
It does read as no shirt to me as well. Looks like they just colored in everything below the necklace.
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Post by MWGallaher on Sept 20, 2021 14:42:57 GMT -5
When it first appears in the comic itself, the new costume is colored as if there is no shirt: In the following issues, several of the panels show that area flesh-colored, while others show it white. I think it's quite clearly intended to be nothing under the vest. The book was an adult title, and there is incidental top-side female nudity on-panel.
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Post by kirby101 on Sept 20, 2021 15:03:11 GMT -5
I read the shirt collar as just a necklass in the original art. And it's the kind of thing Maroto would draw. I won't post any pics because NSFW, but if you Google Images for "esteban maroto woman", more than half are bare chested.
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Post by MDG on Sept 20, 2021 15:38:58 GMT -5
I read the shirt collar as just a necklass in the original art. And it's the kind of thing Maroto would draw. I won't post any pics because NSFW, but if you Google Images for "esteban maroto woman", more than half are bare chested. I was thinking shirt, but looking now, that would have to be a pretty damn tight-fitting, wrinkle-free t-shirt.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 20, 2021 15:57:19 GMT -5
I read the shirt collar as just a necklass in the original art. And it's the kind of thing Maroto would draw. I won't post any pics because NSFW, but if you Google Images for "esteban maroto woman", more than half are bare chested. I was thinking shirt, but looking now, that would have to be a pretty damn tight-fitting, wrinkle-free t-shirt. Which, to be fair, is completely on brand for superhero funnybooks.
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Post by berkley on Sept 20, 2021 16:07:05 GMT -5
It looks better in black and white and the coloured version looks better without the t-shirt, which is much more Maroto-like, as already pointed out above.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 17:25:28 GMT -5
it made no sense, but as a HUGE Perez fan? Zatanna's "classic" look will always be the lobster head one. but I did really like the "biker chick" look as described above too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2021 17:27:47 GMT -5
tho if you WANT a "craptactular" Zatanna costume, look no further than "Flashpoint"
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Post by badwolf on Sept 20, 2021 17:40:48 GMT -5
Yeah that's effing awful, no question.
I'll have to hunt down this Maroto mini. I recently read a Conan novel he illustrated and the art was quite fine (and yes there was some nudity).
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