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Post by beccabear67 on Nov 28, 2020 17:14:27 GMT -5
Weird, a fan turned pro then?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2020 17:45:13 GMT -5
Weird, a fan turned pro then? he was given his powers by "the Power Broker". . and used them as part of the Unlimited Class Wrestling league - where several characters who have stuck around also participated in, during the 80's. I believe Titania, Poundcakes, Screaming Mimi, Volcana (all as part of the "Grapplers" female UCW team), and several others were part of this league. (here's a list I found from Marvel Wiki that lists the most prominent members) if I'm recalling correctly, the main Power Broker storyline that brought him in, was in Captain America tho. . and when they teamed up to take him down, Cap said he needed a superhero costume - and so he put together one that was from spare costumes (maybe from a bin at Avengers Mansion???. .tho I dunno why Daredevil & Wolvie would have had costume parts there).
anyways, his wrestling name was Demolition Man. . so the "D" on the Daredevil suit worked for him. . and "D-Man" was born.
he was a Cap sidekick for a while too.
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Post by Crimebuster on Nov 28, 2020 18:51:09 GMT -5
I really enjoyed D-Man as a character in his initial run on the series, which was roughly #328-349.
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Post by spoon on Nov 28, 2020 21:21:17 GMT -5
Weird, a fan turned pro then? he was given his powers by "the Power Broker". . and used them as part of the Unlimited Class Wrestling league - where several characters who have stuck around also participated in, during the 80's. I believe Titania, Poundcakes, Screaming Mimi, Volcana (all as part of the "Grapplers" female UCW team), and several others were part of this league. (here's a list I found from Marvel Wiki that lists the most prominent members) if I'm recalling correctly, the main Power Broker storyline that brought him in, was in Captain America tho. . and when they teamed up to take him down, Cap said he needed a superhero costume - and so he put together one that was from spare costumes (maybe from a bin at Avengers Mansion???. .tho I dunno why Daredevil & Wolvie would have had costume parts there).
anyways, his wrestling name was Demolition Man. . so the "D" on the Daredevil suit worked for him. . and "D-Man" was born.
he was a Cap sidekick for a while too.
Digging through the Cap TPBs, the D-Man costume shows up in Captain America #328. He mentions that he modeled it after Daredevil's old costume. He doesn't mention Wolverine at all, although the cover jokes that he's not Daredevil or Wolverine. So I don't now the point of the earpieces other than maybe to trick little kids into buying comics with him on the cover or to differentiate the costume a bit from Daredevil's.
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 29, 2020 12:08:28 GMT -5
Weird, a fan turned pro then? he was given his powers by "the Power Broker". . and used them as part of the Unlimited Class Wrestling league - where several characters who have stuck around also participated in, during the 80's. I believe Titania, Poundcakes, Screaming Mimi, Volcana (all as part of the "Grapplers" female UCW team), and several others were part of this league. (here's a list I found from Marvel Wiki that lists the most prominent members) if I'm recalling correctly, the main Power Broker storyline that brought him in, was in Captain America tho. . and when they teamed up to take him down, Cap said he needed a superhero costume - and so he put together one that was from spare costumes (maybe from a bin at Avengers Mansion???. .tho I dunno why Daredevil & Wolvie would have had costume parts there).
anyways, his wrestling name was Demolition Man. . so the "D" on the Daredevil suit worked for him. . and "D-Man" was born.
he was a Cap sidekick for a while too.
The wrestling name was Demolition Dunphy. He only becomes Demolition man with the suit. The original Daredevil suit works because it was pretty much designed, from the start, to look like a pro wrestling costume. You have a wrestling singlet over a yellow bodysuit and a mask. Pretty much the look of every masked pro wrestler of the era. His first appearance is in a gym, battling hoods and a wrestler, and the hoods think he is a costumed wrestler, at first. The Wolverine mask was to definitely invoke the character, as the original cover appearance was designed to confuse readers and draw parallels with Wolverine... At the same time, it is poking fun at the popularity of the two and the propensity to feature them as guest stars, as especially noted by Cap's thought balloon.
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Post by beccabear67 on Nov 29, 2020 13:43:27 GMT -5
Titania, Poundcakes, Screaming Mimi, Volcana (all as part of the "Grapplers" female UCW team), and several others were part of this league. I learned a little about that in the Thunderbolts comic I guess. Seems like Marvel was wanting to tap into the Wrestling-mania of the late '80s-early '90s peak! Better to me than yet more ninjas and vampires.
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 29, 2020 15:27:41 GMT -5
Titania, Poundcakes, Screaming Mimi, Volcana (all as part of the "Grapplers" female UCW team), and several others were part of this league. I learned a little about that in the Thunderbolts comic I guess. Seems like Marvel was wanting to tap into the Wrestling-mania of the late '80s-early '90s peak! Better to me than yet more ninjas and vampires. Well Gruenwald & Macchio had already featured pro wrestling in Project Pegasus, where the Grapplers debuted, in a subplot where Thundra ends up involved in pro wrestling, while she is secretly being manipulated to lead the Grapplers into the Pegasus compound, by the Nth Command. Unlimited Class Wrestling appeared in the Thing solo comic, #28, in 1985. It was definitely riding the surge in popularity of wrestling, as 1985 featured the WWF exploiting the relationship they had developed with MTV, via Cyndi Lauper. In 1983, Lauper hit it big with "Girls Just Want to Have Fun," which was featured heavily on MTV. The video features Captain Lou Albano, a WWF manager, as her father. This led to her apeparibng on the WWF tv taping, with Albano claiming credit for her success. She tells him off, challenges him to a match where her wrestler will face his, leading to the Brawl to End it All, where Wendy Richter defeated the Fabulous Moolah for the Women's title. That was in 1984. In February, 1985, they broadcast The War To Settle the Score, with Hulk Hogan defending against Roddy Piper, with Mr T ringside. All of that led into the first Wrestlemania. So, yeah, they were trying to ride the coattails of the WWF and Hulkamania, with the Thing as Marvel's Hulkster (ironically, the WWF had to license the Hulk name from Marvel). Ben had been involved in wrestling in an early FF comic, from Stan & Jack (Jack was a wrestling fan and also used it in X-Men, with Beast and Unus the Untouchable). I heard somehwere that part of the idea was also to filter out some of the lesser villains into the league to provide wrestling characters and also explain how so many enhanced guys were walking around. I don't recall how long they kept that UCW thing going in the Thing.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 4, 2020 16:56:15 GMT -5
My wife is reading the Life and Adventures of Santa Claus..I could have sworn there was a comic book version before the recent Grant Morrison one, but I couldn't find it anywhere... was there?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2020 17:06:33 GMT -5
My wife is reading the Life and Adventures of Santa Claus..I could have sworn there was a comic book version before the recent Grant Morrison one, but I couldn't find it anywhere... was there? Well, there was this one by Ploog (which is wonderful).
Came out in the early 90's, but Amazon still has it
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2020 17:54:45 GMT -5
My wife is reading the Life and Adventures of Santa Claus..I could have sworn there was a comic book version before the recent Grant Morrison one, but I couldn't find it anywhere... was there?
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 4, 2020 20:36:05 GMT -5
The Mike Ploog one is the one I was thinking of. Thanks!
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Post by coinilius on Dec 9, 2020 6:07:32 GMT -5
So I only just recently realised that the comics have adopted the ‘Joker pushes Harley into acid’ backstory (a bad idea, IMO, but that’s neither here nor there), and that got me thinking - have there been other characters that have been pushed into the same chemicals that created the Joker? I feel like there has been at least one other story where the chemicals that created the Joker were used on someone else but I can’t find anything on line about similar stories. Does anyone here know of any stories or characters?
Edit: I do know that the Creeper has been connected to the Joker in at least the animated universe and I think some comics as well, but I still feel like there has been others
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Post by foxley on Dec 9, 2020 7:02:29 GMT -5
So I only just recently realised that the comics have adopted the ‘Joker pushes Harley into acid’ backstory (a bad idea, IMO, but that’s neither here nor there), and that got me thinking - have there been other characters that have been pushed into the same chemicals that created the Joker? I feel like there has been at least one other story where the chemicals that created the Joker were used on someone else but I can’t find anything on line about similar stories. Does anyone here know of any stories or characters? Edit: I do know that the Creeper has been connected to the Joker in at least the animated universe and I think some comics as well, but I still feel like there has been others In 1990, a story ran in Batman and Detective featuring a Joker copycat whose crimes lured the real Joker out of hiding (this was the first Joker story since "A Death in the Family"). At the end of it, the copycat attempts to transform himself into a real Joker by jumping into the same catch basin where the Joker's transformation occurred while dressed in the Red Hood's costume. Batman tries to shout a warming that in the years since the original accident, the company had changed the formula and the acid was now much more powerful. It comes too late, and the copycat hits the acid and is dissolved.
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Post by coinilius on Dec 9, 2020 8:09:38 GMT -5
Thanks for that! Someone else wanting to become a Joker seems like such an obvious set up for a story.
Does anyone know if there are any other stories where the chemicals actually do transform someone else?
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Post by bryguy on Dec 9, 2020 16:58:25 GMT -5
Apologies in advance if this isn't the right place to post this, but it is a question that I'm hoping the knowledgeable people here can help me with. I want to remember a comic from my childhood in the early 80s, but it's a long shot and I don't remember many details, not the author, nor any words from the comic's name.
It was a sci fi comic "book", I believe it was hardcover, in French, but I can't say if that was the original language or not, it may have been translated for all I know. It was about a race of alien explorers, with features similar to the grays (black eyes I think). They had advanced tech and they would explore alien worlds. I remember they had this circular floating drone that they took with them on one of the planet landings.
In the one story that I remember clearly, they encounter some kind of plant that swallows one of them and they discover that it transports its prey to the planet's core, so they sacrifice someone to it who's loaded with explosives to kill it. There was another story that I don't remember as clearly, but it involved them subjugating other technically advanced races, only to have the landing party wiped out by primitives with bows and arrows. I really wish I could remember more details.
The other comic (unrelated to this one, but possibly from the same era, can't be sure) that I was able to remember thanks to Google, was Proteo. An android that could morph into any machine he touched.
I realize it's a super long shot, but appreciate any guesses or insights!
Edit: Added a few more details
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