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Post by shaxper on Jul 27, 2020 23:12:27 GMT -5
Adventures of Superman #479 (June 1991) "Red Glass, Part Two: Falling Apart" Script: James D. Hudnall Pencils: Ed Hannigan Inks: Will Blyberg [as Willie Blyberg] Colors: Glenn Whitmore Letters: Bill Oakley Grade: A- I'm used to writing lengthy, in-depth reviews, but I suspect this one is going to end up being a lot shorter, as there is far less to say. Hudnall and Hannigan are writing a story in 1991 that feels like it's straight out of 2020 -- massive decompression, a mystery that keeps us reading until the final chapter, and lots of space devoted to individual moments instead of prioritizing the telling of the story as a whole. In 2020, I'm sick to death of these kinds of comics, but in 1991, it feels ambitious and artistic. Really, beyond Hudnall offering these few additional creative details for this "alternate" existence Superman is now residing in: This issue is mostly just Hudnall and Hannigan having fun ripping Superman's mind apart. And it's breath-taking. Ahead of its time, really. Though when Martian Manhunter and the Justice League show up to take down Superman, I once again get confused and struggle to separate this alternate reality with the dystopian future that was just presented in Superman Annual #3. Superman has now killed J'onn twice in two months. As far as the plot goes, there really isn't one. What's happening clearly isn't reality, and the only clues we can make out are that NASA is trying to contact Superman about being trapped on the moon, and "red glass". More confusion here, as Superman watched the moon blow up at the end of Time and Time Again (but that was in the far future) and he was desperately trying to get from the moon back to Earth at the end of that story (but he DID get there last month in Action Comics #665). It's all starting to run together for me. So maybe we're not supposed to understand why Superman is on the moon right now. I guess we don't have enough clues to solve that one. And my only theory for "red glass" continues to be Red Kryptonite. The Red Kryptonite that appeared in Krisis of the Krimson Kryptonite is now safely stored in Clark's Fortress of Solitude, but this could be a new batch, or it could be the stuff that Mxyzptlk haphazardly tossed aside sixteen months ago in Adventures of Superman #463: I'd always wondered why nothing ever came of that. By the way, in two more months, Peter Milligan is going to write a story remarkably similar to this one in Detective Comics, where most of the issue is spent subjectively depicting Batman losing his mind, only to finally reveal what is causing it at the close: Not that he's necessarily ripping off Hudnall, here. Anyway, not much of a story to be found here, but it was a wild and impressive ride all the same.
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Post by zaku on Jul 28, 2020 4:48:01 GMT -5
You know, this panel made me realizing something. Much has been said about the decision of depowering Superman after Crisis. But he wasn't the only powerhouse in the DC Universe. The Martian Manhunter was depicted, even in the PreCriris universe, as one of the few beings whose strength level was comparable to Superman. By memory, other ones were: - Captain Marvel
- Daxamites (including Mon-El)
- Ultra Boy
- GeoForce
- Mongul
- Orion
and so on
So, the question is: did the Superman Office's decision automatically depower all the other heavy hitters? And were all the other editors ok with that?
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Post by shaxper on Jul 28, 2020 5:30:51 GMT -5
You know, this panel made me realizing something. Much has been said about the decision of depowering Superman after Crisis. But he wasn't the only powerhouse in the DC Universe. The Martian Manhunter was depicted, even in the PreCriris universe, as one of the few beings whose strength level was comparable to Superman. By memory, other ones were: - Captain Marvel
- Daxamites (including Mon-El)
- Ultra Boy
- GeoForce
- Mongul
- Orion
and so on
So, the question is: did the Superman Office's decision automatically depower all the other heavy hitters? And were all the other editors ok with that?
An excellent question. At least in the case of Martian Manhunter, I guess a second question to be asked on top of your first one would be who was in a position to challenge such an edict? The pre-Giffen Justice League was at a pretty low point in terms of sales when the call was made to de-power Superman. If it came down to whether to stay true to a character that was only one part of a team almost no one was reading or make this huge move that everyone at DC was anticipating and talking about, I've got to believe that the Andy Helfer Superman Office had more sway, possibly even before Byrne's arrival. And, to be clear, both times Superman kills J'onn in these past two months, it wasn't by being stronger/more powerful. The first time, he allows J'onn to get engulfed in flames, and the horror gives J'onn a heart attack. In this case, everyone Superman is fighting (he never even hits Guy Gardner) ends up dying as a result, thus driving him crazier.
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Post by zaku on Jul 28, 2020 5:45:28 GMT -5
You know, this panel made me realizing something. Much has been said about the decision of depowering Superman after Crisis. But he wasn't the only powerhouse in the DC Universe. The Martian Manhunter was depicted, even in the PreCriris universe, as one of the few beings whose strength level was comparable to Superman. By memory, other ones were: - Captain Marvel
- Daxamites (including Mon-El)
- Ultra Boy
- GeoForce
- Mongul
- Orion
and so on
So, the question is: did the Superman Office's decision automatically depower all the other heavy hitters? And were all the other editors ok with that?
An excellent question. At least in the case of Martian Manhunter, I guess a second question to be asked on top of your first one would be who was in a position to challenge such an edict? The pre-Giffen Justice League was at a pretty low point in terms of sales when the call was made to de-power Superman. If it came down whether to stay true to a character that was only one part of a team almost no one was reading or make this huge move that everyone at DC was anticipating and talking about, I've got to believe that the Andy Helfer Superman Office had more sway, possibly even before Byrne's arrival. And, to be clear, both times Superman kills J'onn in these past two months, it wasn't by being stronger/more powerful. The first time, he allows J'onn to get engulfed in flames, and the horror gives J'onn a heart attack. In this case, everyone Superman is fighting (he never even hits Guy Gardner) ends up dying as a result, thus driving him crazier. Two heroes whose adventures were still published at the time were Ultra Boy and Mon-El (both in the Legion). There is some Legion expert who could answer the question...? ETA: And GeoForce of the Outsiders. I mean, he hit really hard the pre-Crisis Superman! Sups got bruises from the fight!
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Post by shaxper on Jul 28, 2020 6:06:38 GMT -5
Two heroes whose adventures were still published at the time were Ultra Boy and Mon-El (both in the Legion). There is some Legion expert who could answer the question...? Paging Dr. String...
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Post by shaxper on Jul 28, 2020 7:24:11 GMT -5
Action Comics #666 (June 1991) "Red Glass, Part Three: Picking Up the Pieces" Script: James D. Hudnall Pencils: Ed Hannigan Inks: Will Blyberg Colors: Glenn Whitmore Letters: Bill Oakley Grade: C- In a year in which the Superman Office appears to be prioritizing the fleshing out of Superman's rogues gallery over anything else, it seems a little disappointing to me that they didn't use Action Comics #666 to finally shed some light on the Satan-like villain known as Blaze, who we know so little about: Just saying. As for what we do get, I was more right than I could have known last issue when I credited this story as feeling like something written in 2020. The massive amount of decompression, the focus on moments and feelings as opposed to the developing of a plot/story, and ultimately (like most comics written in this style today), it utterly drops off at the end. "Houston," "trapped on the moon," "red glass"...none of these clues ever could have possibly led us to the utterly unsatisfying conclusion that came out of nowhere: An object on the moon resembling red glass is trying to communicate with Superman, and that inexplicably causes him to imagine this dystopian future. It's just so damn lazy. And, take a look back at the captions on the past three covers: "First Symptoms," "Full Fever," and "Crystalline Cure". Sure seems like the solution to what was causing Superman's "dream" was changed at the last moment. He was not experiencing any kind of infection/disease. I still suspect the original solution involved Red Kryptonite. Perhaps Carlin didn't want two Red Kryptonite stories published less than a year apart? Finally, even if you can excuse all of the other failings of this story, it holds no real significance. Superman has a paranoid vision while trying to rescue a stranded alien entity. What about that warranted its occupying three entire issues? In the Silver Age, this entire story arc could have been told in eight pages. Hudnall tries to attribute some significance to all of this by the close: but I'm not buying it. Inadvertently triggering a nightmare somehow gives Superman the power to overcome his inner demons? Why don't we spend a few panels actually showing that internal transformation instead of tacking it on to the final panels of the story? To be fair, I did enjoy watching Superman go on a rampage against Captain Atom and Firestorm, and this moment with Wonder Woman was haunting and poignant: But, like most current mainstream comics, I flew through this thing in roughly eight minutes and felt cheated by the close. Not enough substance. Minor Details:- I was starting to think I knew my Post-Crisis DCU pretty well, but I'll admit to not being sure who these characters are: The new Doom Patrol? - And I guess this final, random panel of the sun is a hint at an upcoming threat?
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 28, 2020 10:35:23 GMT -5
I always considered Hannigan a reliable and capable artist, but these pages look very good!!! I'm genuinely impressed!
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Post by shaxper on Jul 30, 2020 1:04:59 GMT -5
I always considered Hannigan a reliable and capable artist, but these pages look very good!!! I'm genuinely impressed! It really felt like it warranted a prestige format, or at least higher quality paper. Normally, I don't mind newsprint at all, but this artwork deserves to be experienced without the limitations of the canvas.
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Post by String on Jul 30, 2020 19:42:23 GMT -5
Two heroes whose adventures were still published at the time were Ultra Boy and Mon-El (both in the Legion). There is some Legion expert who could answer the question...? Paging Dr. String ... Hm, good question. I'm not sure if this pertains to the edicts of the new Crisis continuity not being wholly accepted by every title simultaneously or not. On the Legion baxter series, Levitz was winding down his classic run after doing the two-part Crisis cleanup story with Superboy from the Pocket Universe (#37-38 which crossed over with Superman and Action). #46-50 featured a conspiracy between Brainiac 5, Saturn Girl, Duo Damsel, and Mon-El to confront the Time Trapper in vengeance for Superboy's death. To reach the Time Trapper, Brainy needed a large power source for his device. Mon-El supplied it by bringing a white dwarf star to Earth. Let me say that again. In #48, Mon-El spent most of his time hauling around a white dwarf star. To me, that clearly states he was still operating at his Pre-crisis power levels. In #50, he goes toe-to-toe with the Time Trapper in an epic brawl. Now, granted, after this battle and till the very end of the Legion baxter series, Mon-El is never the same. He's grievously injured, there being some indications that had Levitz continued on, Mon-El may have died. Was this a way for the Legion office to balance the scales? Possibly but as I've mentioned before, the editorial spats between the Superman and Legion offices lead to Giffen and gang being unable to use or reference anything from Superman. Mon-El makes only one appearance in 5YL (#4) in which he kills the Time Trapper (and yes, the underlying idea seems to indicate that he is operating at his Pre-Crisis power levels here). In resetting the timeline, Mon-El vanishes to be replaced by Lar Gand, Valor, who seems to be more in line with the de-powered Superman in terms of their respective strength. Same goes for Ultra Boy. In the remaining issues of the Baxter series, he appeared to operate at his Pre-Crisis levels similar to Mon-El. Afterward, in 5YL, his strength seems scaled back. Laurel Gand, the new Daxamite introduced in 5YL, also displays strength similar to Superman post-crisis. Also of note, Ordway introduced a new wrinkle for Captain Marvel involving his strength in Power of Shazam. Cap by himself has strength comparable to Superman but his strength is halved when Mary or Junior change and then halved again if all three are powered up. Ordway chalked it up to Billy having to share his power between the three of them.
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Post by String on Jul 30, 2020 19:49:01 GMT -5
I don't know if this ever happened in the Silver Age, imaginary story or what not, but I can not ever see Lois and Jimmy being together, even in a fake alien telepathic vision. It just looks...odd.
Is it just me or does the shot of the crystalline aliens leaving the moon look kinda/sorta like baby Kal-El's crystal ship from the Reeve film?
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Post by shaxper on Jul 30, 2020 19:56:23 GMT -5
I don't know if this ever happened in the Silver Age, imaginary story or what not, but I can not ever see Lois and Jimmy being together, even in a fake alien telepathic vision. It just looks...odd. Especially as this wasn't some vision of the future, but rather of the present. At most, Jimmy is in his early 20s, and my Post-Crisis Superman Timeline has Lois 26 years old in 1987. Depending on how time is passing in the comic, that makes her anywhere between 26 and 30 at this point. She is certainly being characterized more like she is 30. Either way, there is a HUGE difference in maturity between early 20s and late 20s. Jimmy is still living with his mom. Yes. Of course, crystalline alien beings and vehicles are not exclusive to Superman: The Movie:
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Post by shaxper on Aug 6, 2020 11:59:06 GMT -5
Superman For Earth (1991) "To Save A World" Script: Roger Stern Pencils: Kerry Gammill Inks: Dennis Janke Colors: Tom McCraw Letters: Bill Oakley Grade: B I'm still not sure what the story behind this one-shot was. Brian Cronin did a short piece about this back in April, but he offered more of a synopsis than anything. Obviously, this was timed to coincide with Earth Day, but did DC have Earth Day organizations pre-ordering mass quantities of this book, did they expect it to turn a profit at the LCS (especially when being overshadowed by the release of Superman: The Man of Steel #1 this same month), or did someone at DC feel the company had a moral imperative to do this, regardless of the finances? I just can't imagine too many casual LCS readers were going to spend five bucks on this thing while DC was already beginning to hemorrhage readers to Marvel with the rise of McFarlane, Lee, and Liefeld. And yet, I have to give respect to DC for how they handled this book. Not only is it printed on carefully sourced 50% recycled paper, but instead of handing this thing off to a second rate creative team, we've got Roger Stern writing, and (be still, my beating heart) Kerry Gammill doing 49 pages of interior art: Yes, it's 49 pages of mostly preaching (even I got bored around ten pages from the end, and I'm passionate about this stuff!), but it does take an intelligent, relatively unsimplified look at many of the challenges our environment faced in 1991 (and still does today): Yet the one aspect of this one-shot that I struggle with is the idea of Superman fighting for the environment. He has never given it much thought prior to this, but Lois mentions her concern, and suddenly he's ready to devote his full energies to this thing: only to decide he can't do much on his own, so he makes a rousing speech at the end, and that's how he helps. Sorry, but I don't accept that. Look, his super powers would enable him to do A LOT to combat environmental issues, and more productively than by cleaning a river bed, one piece of debris at a time: BTW, where's all that garbage getting dumped, Superman?I'm sure Superman could consult with NASA and work out a way to use his powers to repair the Ozone Layer and thwart global warming, rather than spending his time studying river samples with Professor Hamilton; he could use his freeze breath to save the melting polar ice caps; he could use his super breath and ability to filter air on a massive scale, maybe even pressure politicians to take a firmer stance against corporate pollution. Come to think of it, while the story is expansive in its exploration of environmental issues in the world, it NEVER touches upon lobbyists and anti-environment politicians. Too bold a stance for DC, perhaps? Too bad, as I'd love to see Superman channel his 1938 counterpart and bust down some senator's door at 4 in the morning to demand he steer a clean air bill to the senate floor. Ah well. In the end, I respect the effort, as well as the product, but I don't really buy an environmentally aware Superman that claims the environment is the single biggest threat to Earth that he can help battle. There's a lot more an environmentally conscious super-being can do than this. Of course, if Superman could stop these issues on his own, the call to action at the end of this issue wouldn't make very much sense, would it? Important Details:- Stern gives us Clark's street address: Thanks to MDG for pointing out that this was also Clark's Pre-Crisis address. - Clark and Lois have the all important conversation about whether or not to have children: - If the general population didn't already know Superman was an alien, they do now: - Once again, we see Superman making efforts to be a protector to the entire world, having learned other languages but admittedly not being fully fluent in them. In Superman #53, we saw that he could speak some Russian. Here, he also seems pretty strong in Portugese: - Stern reminds us of a few old Superman concepts we haven't seen since Byrne was on the books. The Aura of Invulnerability hasn't been mentioned in ages: and apparently we are still holding to the idea that Superman vibrates his head at super speeds in order to prevent his face from being photographed or recorded: chadwilliam and I have ripped apart this silly concept before. Minor Details:- I LOVE when we get panels of Clark and Lois just being a couple. It took entirely too long for us to get invested in this relationship, but now it works quite well: - Stern hits upon what I believe is the most important clarification for those who claim we are damaging "The Earth" and need to save "The Earth": It's not the Earth that's in danger; it's us. - Another excellent point for those that preach about preserving the Rain Forest: Of course, I'm not sure your run of the mill Brazilian thug has any idea what a "Yankee" is. - A nice way of tackling the need to save the Earth in a comic universe in which other populated planets are known to exist: Though I have to wonder why that class was watching this speech on TV. Superman showed up unannounced to interrupt a totally nonconstructive session in which people were shouting over each other, still discussing procedural rules. You're telling me the teacher had this on for the class the entire time? She must really hate lesson planning.
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Post by MDG on Aug 6, 2020 14:18:12 GMT -5
"344 Clinton Street" as Clark's address has been around a long time. According to this page, since Superman #46 (May 1947).
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Post by shaxper on Aug 6, 2020 14:37:39 GMT -5
"344 Clinton Street" as Clark's address has been around a long time. According to this page, since Superman #46 (May 1947). Thanks for this. It hadn't been previously mentioned Post-Crisis.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 6, 2020 19:59:34 GMT -5
If this past month's Superman offerings seemed larger than life, with the first Armageddon 2001 tie-in, the Red Glass trilogy, and the prestige format Superman For Earth, just look at what's coming next...
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