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Post by marvelmaniac on Jun 6, 2015 10:42:39 GMT -5
That was just a generic statement, it could apply to any meal or any day.
I have heard family members say they went over their calorie intake yesterday by 500 so today they will only take in 1500 calories instead of 2000(numbers are examples only).
2500 calories one day, 1500 the next, 2800 the next, 1200 the next, your body needs the same nutrients everyday so doing that cannot be good from a medical/nutritional standpoint.
My Sister has such a problem that my Daughter In Law has to hide food when my Sister is coming over.
My Sister has also admitted to having to keep food in her car,(she buys junk sometimes) she says she will eat it all if she keeps it in her house, knowing she has to get up, walk down the steps to go out and get it stops her from eating it.
She also complains that when people bring Donuts or other treats into work she has no self control.
She did not get my OCD which came from my Grandfather and I passed onto my Son.
We have had numerous Pizza Parties(Customer Compliments to Regional = Free Pizza for the store) at work since I changed my diet and people are always eating Taco Bell, Popeyes Chicken, Hoagies, Arby's etc around me and I have no issue saying no, kind of makes it hard for me to relate to people that cannot say no because I just do it.
I found out through the years that your key to success is your motivation.
Generally doing something for money or yourself never works.
I was able to quit smoking(5 years now) after 43 years because my oldest Grandson(now 17)asked me a few years ago if I would quit so I would be alive to see him graduate(which happens on 6/18) and when my Daughter had twins in 2009 the younger one who spent his first 3 weeks in the NICU at Dupont would not come to me because I smelled like smoke,so I stopped.
I just recently got my first Granddaughter(10/13)(5 Grandsons)and after finding out about my bloodsugar being high I decided I wanted to be alive to see her walk down the isle so the change in diet was not hard.
Every time I see my Grandkids it reinforces why I did it so no issues.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 6, 2015 12:00:30 GMT -5
T people are always eating Taco Bell, Popeyes Chicken, Hoagies, Arby's etc around me and I have no issue saying no, kind of makes it hard for me to relate to people that cannot say no because I just do it. Yeah, everyone has an area of weakness. I can't understand why some people can't say no to drugs or a drink or smoking cigarettes. Eating is a far trickier proposition because we have to eat to survive. Somewhere along the line people began to tie eating in with happiness or depression and have let the food control them. I guess I'm one of those people. But when I get in the zone, I'm pretty solid. My goal is to stay at my target weight this time. I have to keep trying , because I have no health issues at 54 and want to keep it that way. |
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Post by the4thpip on Jun 6, 2015 13:02:12 GMT -5
Well the fact is... Research changes its mind every week, this week something is bad, next week its a super food... No offense, but that is the kind of anti-science attitude that climate change deniers apply, too. And I really hate it. The internet is full of outdated data. If new data comes along and the study is peer reviewed and supported by other studies, it makes sense to ignore the older web sites that don't update their information. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2015 15:12:29 GMT -5
AH HA!
The company who makes the rower I have, has a numbered workout suggestion list on their website. Wish I had thought to look before starting.
No wonder I was having hip flexers/psoas problems: Nowhere in their workouts, no matter how difficult or easy, do they ever suggest going 30-31 s/m. Which is what I was doing.
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Post by shaxper on Jun 6, 2015 16:23:48 GMT -5
Well the fact is... Research changes its mind every week, this week something is bad, next week its a super food... No offense, but that is the kind of anti-science attitude that climate change deniers apply, too. That's quite a leap. I happen to agree that nutritional research needs to be viewed with healthy skepticism as the science there isn't particularly good. For example, science still hasn't definitively concluded whether or not ingesting fat actually leads to the body creating more fat, still hasn't agreed upon a reliable method of measuring obesity (both weight and BMI as measurements have been proven to have flaws), and is still debating whether a calorie is a meaningful measurement in regard to what you ingest at all. We've seen science proclaim oatbran, red wine, kale, pomegranites, acai berries, and even chocolate as being miracle wonder foods and then disprove those theories a year later. The fact is, nutritional research is a business, and sloppy/shocking research is more profitable than meticulous/skeptical research. This has nothing to do with denying science in general nor climate change. Not all fields of science are equally respectable and reliable. |
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Post by shaxper on Jun 6, 2015 16:45:09 GMT -5
By the way, I just checked the scale, and I'm already back to 250 lbs after last night's departure from the diet. Not bad!
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 6, 2015 21:05:31 GMT -5
Once you are eating well, one bad meal or even one bad day will not effect the bottom line. Happy for you shax, you're in the zone.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 6, 2015 21:09:17 GMT -5
No offense, but that is the kind of anti-science attitude that climate change deniers apply, too. That's quite a leap. I happen to agree that nutritional research needs to be viewed with healthy skepticism as the science there isn't particularly good. For example, science still hasn't definitively concluded whether or not ingesting fat actually leads to the body creating more fat, still hasn't agreed upon a reliable method of measuring obesity (both weight and BMI as measurements have been proven to have flaws), and is still debating whether a calorie is a meaningful measurement in regard to what you ingest at all. We've seen science proclaim oatbran, red wine, kale, pomegranites, acai berries, and even chocolate as being miracle wonder foods and then disprove those theories a year later. The fact is, nutritional research is a business, and sloppy/shocking research is more profitable than meticulous/skeptical research. This has nothing to do with denying science in general nor climate change. Not all fields of science are equally respectable and reliable. I agree with shax. Science redefines it's findings every few years, it seems. Even climate change, it wasn't too long ago that the were saying global warming and that the earth was getting hotter every year. This was the coldest winter I can remember. So now they call it climate change instead. Whatever. |
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Post by shaxper on Jun 6, 2015 23:33:45 GMT -5
That's quite a leap. I happen to agree that nutritional research needs to be viewed with healthy skepticism as the science there isn't particularly good. For example, science still hasn't definitively concluded whether or not ingesting fat actually leads to the body creating more fat, still hasn't agreed upon a reliable method of measuring obesity (both weight and BMI as measurements have been proven to have flaws), and is still debating whether a calorie is a meaningful measurement in regard to what you ingest at all. We've seen science proclaim oatbran, red wine, kale, pomegranites, acai berries, and even chocolate as being miracle wonder foods and then disprove those theories a year later. The fact is, nutritional research is a business, and sloppy/shocking research is more profitable than meticulous/skeptical research. This has nothing to do with denying science in general nor climate change. Not all fields of science are equally respectable and reliable. I agree with shax. Science redefines it's findings every few years, it seems. Even climate change, it wasn't too long ago that the were saying global warming and that the earth was getting hotter every year. This was the coldest winter I can remember. So now they call it climate change instead. Whatever. I could do ten rounds with you on this one, but it's not the right thread. Suffice to say, if you actually read the research, it explains cold winters quite clearly. They changed the name in response to people who hadn't actually looked at the research saying "if it's Global Warming, why is it getting colder?" The name was accurate (the Earth IS warming), but it was causing confusion and disbelief, so they changed it. |
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Post by shaxper on Jun 6, 2015 23:35:36 GMT -5
So my wife surprised me with a date night tonight. I behaved very carefully at first, but, being up so late and having eaten dinner at 6:30, I was VERY hungry and decided to invoke my policy of eating out for social purposes. Considering that my daily intake now is only 1100 calories, I'm hoping the burger I had for 4th Meal won't hurt me too bad in the long run. Inevitably, I'll have a lot of undigested meat riding along with me on the scale tomorrow morning.
Oh, and my wife decided, at the end of that meal, that she's leaving me again, so that was totally worth it or something...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2015 2:16:06 GMT -5
That's quite a leap. I happen to agree that nutritional research needs to be viewed with healthy skepticism as the science there isn't particularly good. For example, science still hasn't definitively concluded whether or not ingesting fat actually leads to the body creating more fat, still hasn't agreed upon a reliable method of measuring obesity (both weight and BMI as measurements have been proven to have flaws), and is still debating whether a calorie is a meaningful measurement in regard to what you ingest at all. We've seen science proclaim oatbran, red wine, kale, pomegranites, acai berries, and even chocolate as being miracle wonder foods and then disprove those theories a year later. The fact is, nutritional research is a business, and sloppy/shocking research is more profitable than meticulous/skeptical research. This has nothing to do with denying science in general nor climate change. Not all fields of science are equally respectable and reliable. I agree with shax. Science redefines it's findings every few years, it seems. Even climate change, it wasn't too long ago that the were saying global warming and that the earth was getting hotter every year. This was the coldest winter I can remember. So now they call it climate change instead. Whatever. Climate change is about a global increase in temperature, and it's minute. It may be colder than usual a couple days a year where you live, but the oceans are warmer than ever, every day of the year. This causes weather to change globally, including storms, and including things like the Polar Vortex, which made it colder in some states than in Antarctica, or on Mars. Frequent superstorms, rising ocean levels, mass migration (and extinction) of various species, and loss of glacier mass are all a part of the globe warming. But the weather can still fluctuate where you live right now. Climate change and global warming are the same thing. And there is no scientific authority changing it's title. That's more a product of media and politics. Remember, we don't get our headlines and soundbites from scientific journals. We get them from clickbait columnists and hyperbolic senators. The overwhelming consensus in science, internationally, and through nearly a century of research, indicates the Earth is getting warmer, and it's caused by man. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 7, 2015 7:56:31 GMT -5
This is Day 12
Start date: 5-27-15
My starting weight: 218 lbs
My goal: 180 lbs
Today's weigh in: 211 ( 0 - from yesterday, -7 overall)
Yesterdays food
930 2 bananas
130pm chicken with salsa
400pm grapes, tangerines
845pm fried chicken, cole slaw
10pm red wine, chicken, 3 candy bars
Review of the day:
Did a lot of damage at the end of the day with all the eating after 845pm. I'm happy I stayed the same as the prior day , considering. Some blow off steam eating occurred, but todays a new day. I took a bike ride in the city which was kind of challenging. I was weaving in and out of traffic in mid town Manhattan. Today, I'm going to get back to basics and continue my trek to my goal of 180.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 7, 2015 8:27:19 GMT -5
So my wife surprised me with a date night tonight. I behaved very carefully at first, but, being up so late and having eaten dinner at 6:30, I was VERY hungry and decided to invoke my policy of eating out for social purposes. Considering that my daily intake now is only 1100 calories, I'm hoping the burger I had for 4th Meal won't hurt me too bad in the long run. Inevitably, I'll have a lot of undigested meat riding along with me on the scale tomorrow morning. Oh, and my wife decided, at the end of that meal, that she's leaving me again, so that was totally worth it or something... ... |
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Post by shaxper on Jun 7, 2015 8:43:38 GMT -5
Day 21
My starting weight: 265 lbs
My ideal weight for my height: 185 lbs
My goal: 220 lbs by August (15 lbs per month for three months)
Today's weigh in: 253 lbs. (+1 lb from yesterday morning's weigh in, but +3 from where I was on the scale later in the day, -12 lbs overall).
Kind of amazing that a late night burger and diet coke can add three pounds to the scale. Not exactly surprising; just trying to wrap my head around it. The burger and diet coke, themselves, didn't weigh a combined 3 lbs, so how does that work? I guess they gave my body most of the ingredients to build fat, but that fat is also made of water, and that's where the weight came from. Who knows. I'll get it off again.
So here marks the first day of the diet where I'm in an emotional crisis. In the past, eating has been my comfort in the worst of times. I think I'll be okay, diet-wise, and that will be a major accomplishment for me.
My plan for today:
Breakfast: 1 serving of vanilla yogurt with sliced fresh banana mixed in. Multivitamin and Calcium/Magnesium supplement. Green tea (as per the4thpip)
Lunch: No idea if family brunch will still be happening, or if there will even still be a family by noon today.
Throughout the day snack: Half a serving of dry Frosted Mini-Wheats (for iron and fiber)
Dinner: Chicken breast marinated in soy and cumin, fresh steamed spinach.
Other snacks (if needed): garlic clove, banana, baby carrots, sliced pineapple, raw unsalted cashews
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 7, 2015 9:01:40 GMT -5
shax, it would be easy to say what the heck let me have that entire bucket of chicken and fries, but do your best to keep focus of your goals. Sorry. Kind of sucks that she made a "date night" just to break her news.
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