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Post by impulse on Dec 19, 2018 9:33:12 GMT -5
So I can now say I approve of one of President Trumps actions: the banning of bump stocks. I'd prefer more comprehensive gun control but I'll take what I can get at this stage. Fair is fair. He did a good thing. Good! Please keep it up. I am so tired of being horrified and outraged at everything he does. I've promised to give credit when credit is due, so I will do so for Jared Kushner's actions in helping get a monumental prison and sentencing overhaul bill, the First Step Act, a bipartisan effort sponsored by representatives Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) and Doug Collins (R-GA), through the House and Senate. It will reduce federal prison sentences as well as offer real, immediate benefits for those currently incarcerated. It passed the Senate 87-12 last night and is on its way to POTUS Donald J. Trump's desk for signature before the holidays. I am also a firm believer in giving credit where due. This sounds like a good thing, so unless POTUS stupidly vetoes it, this sounds very promising. Are you aware of a brief write-up of the changes? |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 19, 2018 10:31:14 GMT -5
I've promised to give credit when credit is due, so I will do so for Jared Kushner's actions in helping get a monumental prison and sentencing overhaul bill, the First Step Act, a bipartisan effort sponsored by representatives Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) and Doug Collins (R-GA), through the House and Senate. It will reduce federal prison sentences as well as offer real, immediate benefits for those currently incarcerated. It passed the Senate 87-12 last night and is on its way to POTUS Donald J. Trump's desk for signature before the holidays. Does it make me a bad person that I think that Kushner did this because so many of his friends are heading to prison? And he's likely not far behind. |
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Post by The Captain on Dec 19, 2018 10:48:37 GMT -5
So I can now say I approve of one of President Trumps actions: the banning of bump stocks. I'd prefer more comprehensive gun control but I'll take what I can get at this stage. Fair is fair. He did a good thing. Good! Please keep it up. I am so tired of being horrified and outraged at everything he does. I've promised to give credit when credit is due, so I will do so for Jared Kushner's actions in helping get a monumental prison and sentencing overhaul bill, the First Step Act, a bipartisan effort sponsored by representatives Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) and Doug Collins (R-GA), through the House and Senate. It will reduce federal prison sentences as well as offer real, immediate benefits for those currently incarcerated. It passed the Senate 87-12 last night and is on its way to POTUS Donald J. Trump's desk for signature before the holidays. I am also a firm believer in giving credit where due. This sounds like a good thing, so unless POTUS stupidly vetoes it, this sounds very promising. Are you aware of a brief write-up of the changes? There's a story on CNN, but I struggle posting links from my phone. Some highlights: New credits awarded to inmates for good behavior or participation in rehabilitation programs. Eases mandatory minimum sentences, giving judges more leeway to ignore certain sentencing guidelines (such as those for non-violent drug offenders being given lengthy terms). Eliminates "stacking" provisions, leaving offenders serving consecutive sentences for crimes committed with firearms. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Dec 19, 2018 12:37:48 GMT -5
I've promised to give credit when credit is due, so I will do so for Jared Kushner's actions in helping get a monumental prison and sentencing overhaul bill, the First Step Act, a bipartisan effort sponsored by representatives Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) and Doug Collins (R-GA), through the House and Senate. It will reduce federal prison sentences as well as offer real, immediate benefits for those currently incarcerated. It passed the Senate 87-12 last night and is on its way to POTUS Donald J. Trump's desk for signature before the holidays. Does it make me a bad person that I think that Kushner did this because so many of his friends are heading to prison? And he's likely not far behind. And because of what happened to his father. And no, it doesn't make you a bad person, it makes you an insightful one. |
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Post by beccabear67 on Dec 19, 2018 16:28:46 GMT -5
Rudolph is a commie! Bourgeois Capitalist playmates shunned the red agitator in their midst...   |
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Post by beccabear67 on Dec 20, 2018 18:31:19 GMT -5
Er, well, um... that went over like a bag of pork rinds at a kosher deli.  Trump has been quite busy today!  |
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 20, 2018 18:41:37 GMT -5
Rudolph is a commie! Bourgeois Capitalist playmates shunned the red agitator in their midst... |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 20, 2018 20:59:01 GMT -5
So Mattis is out and the President is now back to playing hardball about the wall...what an odd turn of events.
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Post by beccabear67 on Dec 20, 2018 21:05:15 GMT -5
"Where have all his generals gone, long time passing. Where have all his generals gone, long time ago"...
"He don't need no immigration, he don't need no thoughts at all. No dark web antics in the backroom. Hey, Limbaugh, leave Coulter alone! All in all it was just a... nother pitch for the wall."
* - sung to the tunes of Where Have All the Flowers Gone, and Another Brick In the Wall.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 23:04:05 GMT -5
Trump tweeted congrats to the House for a Budget bill that is DOA in the Senate. just shaking my damn head. . and the fact that only 8 House Republicans voted against the bill that contained BILLIONS for a border wall no one but the GOP Base (33%) wants, while the rest all lined up to vote yes?
shows exactly why they lost the House in the Midterms. |
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Post by Warmonger on Dec 20, 2018 23:23:57 GMT -5
Trump tweeted congrats to the House for a Budget bill that is DOA in the Senate. just shaking my damn head. . and the fact that only 8 House Republicans voted against the bill that contained BILLIONS for a border wall no one but the GOP Base (33%) wants, while the rest all lined up to vote yes?
shows exactly why they lost the House in the Midterms. The house has been lost in the midterms for 22 straight midterm elections, regardless of whether it was a Dem or Pub POTUS. This was nothing new and was totally expected by everyone who isn’t a complete homer. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 21, 2018 1:15:29 GMT -5
Trump tweeted congrats to the House for a Budget bill that is DOA in the Senate. just shaking my damn head. . and the fact that only 8 House Republicans voted against the bill that contained BILLIONS for a border wall no one but the GOP Base (33%) wants, while the rest all lined up to vote yes?
shows exactly why they lost the House in the Midterms. The house has been lost in the midterms for 22 straight midterm elections, regardless of whether it was a Dem or Pub POTUS. This was nothing new and was totally expected by everyone who isn’t a complete homer. This was only the 4th time the house has changed hands since Kennedy, so I think you might be exaggerating a WEE bit. Yes, the last couple times were at midterms, but not every time (the GOP held it during Obama's 2nd term, and during Bush's first).. before that it was in Democratic hands for like 40 years |
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Post by The Captain on Dec 21, 2018 6:31:31 GMT -5
Trump tweeted congrats to the House for a Budget bill that is DOA in the Senate. just shaking my damn head. . and the fact that only 8 House Republicans voted against the bill that contained BILLIONS for a border wall no one but the GOP Base (33%) wants, while the rest all lined up to vote yes?
shows exactly why they lost the House in the Midterms. Not surprising at all. The Republicans who voted "yes" on it have to make sure they let their constituents back home know they are supporting the Trump Agenda, else they risk having some further-right yahoo come along next election cycle and claim the incumbent is soft on immigration. This is all about protecting their own interests and future employment, not doing what's right for the country. It's the biggest argument for term limits, in that these folks view this position as a career, not as public service as it should be. No one should be in Washington for 20+ years as a Representative, because their sole job then becomes to ensure their own reelection. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Dec 21, 2018 6:49:46 GMT -5
Trump tweeted congrats to the House for a Budget bill that is DOA in the Senate. just shaking my damn head. . and the fact that only 8 House Republicans voted against the bill that contained BILLIONS for a border wall no one but the GOP Base (33%) wants, while the rest all lined up to vote yes?
shows exactly why they lost the House in the Midterms. The house has been lost in the midterms for 22 straight midterm elections, regardless of whether it was a Dem or Pub POTUS. This was nothing new and was totally expected by everyone who isn’t a complete homer. Keep believing that. Oh, and Presidents have also been taking their marching orders re military decisions in the Middle East from the Turkish dictator, too. |
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 21, 2018 9:39:18 GMT -5
Trump tweeted congrats to the House for a Budget bill that is DOA in the Senate. just shaking my damn head. . and the fact that only 8 House Republicans voted against the bill that contained BILLIONS for a border wall no one but the GOP Base (33%) wants, while the rest all lined up to vote yes?
shows exactly why they lost the House in the Midterms. Not surprising at all. The Republicans who voted "yes" on it have to make sure they let their constituents back home know they are supporting the Trump Agenda, else they risk having some further-right yahoo come along next election cycle and claim the incumbent is soft on immigration. This is all about protecting their own interests and future employment, not doing what's right for the country. It's the biggest argument for term limits, in that these folks view this position as a career, not as public service as it should be. No one should be in Washington for 20+ years as a Representative, because their sole job then becomes to ensure their own reelection.Absolutely!!! "Politician" should be a calling; it shouldn't be seen as a career. Dependence on money poisons it all. That's one reason I was against the idea of elections at a fixed date, which we adopted here a short while ago. It turns most of an elected official's tenure into an electoral campaign (when it's not the whole of it) and distracts them from doing their actual job. Oddly enough, even if a few months more or less shouldn't make a difference (because we still held elections roughly every four years), the uncertainty resulted in our politicians not starting any campaigning before the election was called. |
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