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Post by wildfire2099 on May 4, 2015 16:46:44 GMT -5
Here's the most recent Huckabee sighting that I remember. I don't think he comes off too good. I liked Mike Huckabee when he first got national attention.. then I realized he was really an evangelical right wing crazy dude just pretending to be normal, and I was sad. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 4, 2015 16:50:18 GMT -5
Here's the most recent Huckabee sighting that I remember. I don't think he comes off too good. Isn't it interesting how "free marketeers" come unglued when the free market doesn't work the way they want it to work. |
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Post by Hoosier X on May 4, 2015 17:14:39 GMT -5
Do you have a source for the claim that Warren actually got a scholarship by claiming to be Native American? The way I remember it is that the GOP made a big deal out of a past incident where she claimed to be part Cherokee (because she's the only person in America who ever repeated some less-than-reliable family history ... or something) but it was pretty quickly forgotten because it was very trivial and there was absolutely no evidence that she ever tried to use it for advancement. I don't, but I remember hearing it on NPR, which I consider a reliable source. A quick google search shows claims that she reported it as such on her College and Law School application... but it's a right-wing news site, so that's not exactly proof. She also re-iterates it in her book (according to that same site)... that would be easy enough to check if you were so inclined. Here's a highly critical article of her from US News and World Report... It's been years since I noticed anything from them, so I'm not sure what their political leaning are (though my vague recollection would be their right-center). They have links to a whole lot of other stuff... it's a long, conprehensive article.... you can judge for yourself its accuracy. Snopes confirms that she called herself a 'minority law teacher' when she was at UPenn, and received an award as such, but they couldn't find any evidence she actually used that to get a job. I think the fact she has refused to make her law school application to Harvard public, so that certainly implies there's something on it she doesn't want the public to know, though what, obviously, one can only speculate. Here's the key quote from the snopes article:
But specific evidence that she gained her position at Harvard (at least in part) through her claims to Native American heritage is lacking.
So this statement: There is documented evidence that she claimed to be Native American to get scholarships for college (or to get accepted, one or the other) ...is certainly not true. I remember Scott Brown trying to make a big deal of it. I kinda felt sorry for him. |
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Post by Hoosier X on May 4, 2015 17:24:47 GMT -5
Here's the most recent Huckabee sighting that I remember. I don't think he comes off too good. I liked Mike Huckabee when he first got national attention.. then I realized he was really an evangelical right wing crazy dude just pretending to be normal, and I was sad. Ben Carson has sort of taken his place this cycle. Except for the "pretending to be normal" part.
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Post by Hoosier X on May 4, 2015 17:35:16 GMT -5
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Post by Hoosier X on May 4, 2015 17:47:19 GMT -5
Alan Keyes said something REALLY STUPID recently but he's so irrelevant that I don't feel right linking to it.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 4, 2015 17:50:38 GMT -5
Alan Keyes said something REALLY STUPID recently but he's so irrelevant that I don't feel right linking to it. That only happens in days that end in "y". |
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Post by Hoosier X on May 4, 2015 17:52:19 GMT -5
I would just like to point out that three decades ago was smack in the middle of the Reagan years. While Republicans have deified him over the years, I personally thought then, and think moreso now, that he was a lousy president. Yup.
I'm reading now about the Reagan campaign's dealing with the Iran government so they would hang on to the hostages for a while during the 1980 election.
Reagan: We do not negotiate with terrorists!
Reagan insiders: *snicker*
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Post by Hoosier X on May 4, 2015 17:55:07 GMT -5
Alan Keyes said something REALLY STUPID recently but he's so irrelevant that I don't feel right linking to it. That only happens in days that end in "y". Well ... if you MUST know ...
Keyes: Gay Marriage a "Just Cause for War"
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 4, 2015 17:57:28 GMT -5
That only happens in days that end in "y". Well ... if you MUST know ...
Keyes: Gay Marriage a "Just Cause for War"
Yeah. I saw it. That on the heels of him saying that Obama is trying to provoke a nuclear war so he can have a third presidential term. The guy is bat-shit crazy, so most everything he says follows suit. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 4, 2015 18:13:22 GMT -5
Here's the key quote from the snopes article:
But specific evidence that she gained her position at Harvard (at least in part) through her claims to Native American heritage is lacking.
So this statement: There is documented evidence that she claimed to be Native American to get scholarships for college (or to get accepted, one or the other) ...is certainly not true. I remember Scott Brown trying to make a big deal of it. I kinda felt sorry for him. It was a couple years ago... perhaps I'm mixing some of the stuff up a bit. IMHO, it's clear she did something that was intended to attempt to profit (career wise) from being in a group she's not in, but the extent is certainly not clear. I actually remember Scott Brown making a much bigger deal of the Asbestos claimants defense... trotting out people whose relatives died and such. It was more the press that latched on to the Native America thing that I recall, but, again it was a while back. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 4, 2015 18:15:26 GMT -5
That reminds me of my wife's favorite line about the modern republicans... I've no idea if someone famous came up with it or it was a meme or whatever: Republicans want to shrink government down so it fits into the bedroom That's a pretty cool blog site, btw. It's pretty scary that people like Cruz and Paul have a (hopefully small) chance of being President... definitely makes me want to move to Canada. |
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Post by macattack on May 4, 2015 18:16:02 GMT -5
We've had a centrist Republican President for the last six years. The way I see it, we've had an idealist who has had no idea how to oppose a lock-step opposition party. I think Obama's approach to immigration and terrorism has felt conservative, but not the rest. Oh no, Obama has a way to oppose the Republicans. Have you looked up how many executive orders he has signed? Or the EPA basically introducing regulations by executive fiat? He's basically doing everything he can to end-around Congress. Obama is not a centrist Republican. He's definitely left, probably even progressive. He had two years at the beginning of his term with a solid Democratic majority in both the House and Senate, and until the last election he had a Democratic Senate that eventually eliminated the filibuster. You can blame the Republicans for a lot (and there is cause for this because the Republicans are opposed to Obama, like every time an opposition party runs Congress), but the Republicans aren't solely to blame here. Also, if he was a centrist Republican, he would likely be a lot friendlier to Israel than he has been. |
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Post by Rob Allen on May 4, 2015 18:17:09 GMT -5
the Republicans call Obama a socialist, what are they going to do when an actual socialist runs? The ones who don't actually read his positions or listen to him will assume that he's just like Obama. The ones who do find out something about him will have one of two reactions - they'll either be horrified and ready to barricade their doors, or they'll think he's surprisingly sensible and wonder why he lets people call him that awful name, "socialist". I'm among the many who'll vote for the Democrat in November because the Republican party has lost its collective mind. I signed up for Bernie Sanders' email list today. He'll make the primaries interesting. My go-to sites for political insight are fivethirtyeight.com, where Nate Silver says Hillary's odds right now are 50-50, and goplifer.com, an all-too-rare example of a left-wing Republican blog. Some examples from goplifer: "[Scott] Walker probably is the most electable potential Republican nominee and he would lose his home state – and the election, to almost any Democratic candidate. ... Wisconsin voters experienced three low-turnout elections with Walker and their buyer’s remorse is rising." "Remember when Rand Paul was a “libertarian?” Sure, it was always a stretch, but he tried to carry that banner for a while. ... Now Paul is dropping the pretense and kneeling at the cross of Republican Jesus. ... For anyone who used to like Rand Paul, this must be a stomach-churning moment. As a former McCain volunteer, I can relate to your pain." "For twenty years Republican candidates for Federal offices have survived on a kind of built-in duplicity. Victory depends on pandering to people who believe all those bullshit forwarded emails and Facebook posts. Electability in this context has a very special meaning. A Republican candidate becomes “electable” by appeasing base voters while convincing general election voters that he didn’t mean what he said. ... Mitt Romney was pandering. Characters like Joni Ernst, Rand Paul and Mike Lee actually believe what they are spouting. With the Presidential campaign of Ted Cruz, the whacko birds are coming home to roost. ... No one but Ted Cruz is going to win the Republican nomination in 2016 by claiming to be the most conservative candidate. There is nothing to the right of Ted Cruz other than armed sedition. His campaign represents the end of the road in our race toward extremes." "For more than half a century the Republican nominating process has been the avenue through which the party chooses the nominee for the next election. This year’s nominee is never in doubt. Whoever finished second last time is this season’s nominee. ... Technically, the second place finisher in 2012 was Rick Santorum, but he was little more than the last clown out of the car. It’s not clear he’ll even be able to muster a challenge in ’16. No frontrunner is emerging from the party’s elite as both Bush and Christie have failed to assemble the support they would need to overcome massive resistance from the Southern rank and file. In 2016, for the first time since 1964, the Republican grassroots will probably choose the party’s nominee for the White House. Get ready for an ugly campaign." And a couple of other things, one from fivethirtyeight and one from the Boston Globe:   |
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Post by wildfire2099 on May 4, 2015 18:34:18 GMT -5
I really think what we need is a legit 3rd party... maybe if Sanders loses the Democratic Primary he can start something like the Social Democrats in Europe... obviously they'd need a better name, but you get the idea.
I think the main issue is most voters are either completely apatheic, or only care about 1 particular issue, and that 1 issue is almost always a social issue that, in the grand scheme of things, isn't all that important (Gay Marriage, Abortion, etc.) We need something to get them excited... Obama did it briefly, but the apathy is even worse now that he didn't deliver on what he was selling back in 2004.
How else do you explain how the Republicans, who do everything they can to sabotage anything that can help the average middle or lower class American (of whom there are alot more than the rich guys they help) ever get elected?
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