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Post by benday-dot on Jul 7, 2014 19:59:31 GMT -5
That Conan vs Tarzan picture is gorgeous, b-d! Where does it come from? I am unsure its ultimate provenance, but I found it on the wonderful, Burroughs online fan site ERBzine. There are loads of eclectic goodies to be found there. I can see it now in the Marvel Universe... Conan, the freebooter, founders in a storm on the jungly coast of the southern ocean, about the territory known as Zembabwei. While foraging for food he thinks to take down a great cat, unknown to him to be an ally of the jungle lord Tarzan. The Ape Man outraged engages the barbarian in a fight of initial misunderstanding. The two, battling to a hard fought draw, soon become begrudging allies, and end up having to engage sinister forces out for despoiling and profit. The adventure, in a multi-issue cross-over, ultimately takes them to the far flung Savage Land where Ka-Zar is brought into the alliance. It turns out Sauron is behind all the far reaching nasty business. Conan, used to fighting these sorts of lizard things finally dispatches the great menace of the Savage Land and is invited to stick around. But Conan soon eyes the lovely Shanna She-Devil and after trying to bed her the uneasy alliance shatters and Conan sullenly departs to other lands and richer plunder. I'd probably buy it.
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Post by berkley on Jul 7, 2014 23:04:01 GMT -5
Of course, Roy Thomas already gave us his Conan vs Tarzan story with the the Amra storyline in Conan the Barbarian, which I'd always assumed was a straight adaptation of some REH stories I'd never read until someone on the old board informed me it was more of an extrapolation from something much less developed in the original REH prose.
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Post by foxley on Jul 8, 2014 2:08:56 GMT -5
Thanks. I'll keep an eye out for this.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 12, 2014 13:55:55 GMT -5
Savage sword of Conan #19, June 1977/Cover by Kenneth Morris (his only SSoC cover, in fact); frontispiece by Rudy Nebres, who would later ink or draw many issues. I quite like the Morris cover; it's not as detailed as something by Boris or Norem, perhaps, but it's very colorful and eye-catching. In this issue: Vengeance in Vendhya, the fourth and final part of the Conan adventure the people of the black circle. The Buscema barbarians, a portfolio by the man whose vision of Conan became the definitive one. The man who was Conan, a review of the book about Howard's creator, The last celt. The castle of the devil, a Solomon Kane adventure. This issue concludes People of the black circle, but to me its highlight is the Buscema portfolio. Very good stuff indeed, giving us an all-too rare opportunity to see Big John inking his own pencils!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 12, 2014 14:28:18 GMT -5
Vengeance in VendhyaScript by Roy Thomas Art by John Buscema and Alfredo Alcala Adapting the story the people of the black circle, by Robert E. Howard. When we last saw Conan, he and his impromptu ally Kerim Shah, the Turanian spy, had led a handful of hired hillmen all the way to the mountain of Yimsha, where dwell the terrible sorcerers belonging to the dread Black Circle. Their goal: to recover the abducted queen of Vendhya. After facing the gauntlet of several traps, magical and technical in nature, the small band had met and defeated the sorcerers' human acolytes. The way being free, they now reach the castle atop Mount Yimsha. As you can see in this nice plunging view of the place, Alcala is back to his fine line style for this final part of the story. Conan immediately demonstrates his experience in the field: refusing to put a hand on the castle's main door handle, he explains that it is shaped like a serpent's head... and that he's seen too many such things suddenly come alive. He prefers to reduce the door to splinters with mighty sword strokes. Leaving one man behind, the group enters the castle. That lone guy will fare poorly: his attention is called by a man (one of the black seers!) who shows up on a balcony, right over him. The hillman wastes no time in shooting an arrow at the smirking figure, who simply snatches the projectile from the air and carelessly lets it fall back. The hillman reflexively catches the shaft, which suddenly turns into a snake that bites him on the arm! The man screams in pain and horror, and returning to see what's happening Conan and the others only find a corpse sprawled on the ground, an arrow sticking from its arm. (They also discover that they can't escape the castle; there is now an invisible wall blocking the doorway)! With little choice, the small band resume their rescue mission. They find a vast room where an altar flanked by four golden snakes supports a crystal globe containing four golden pomegranates. (I love this kind of odd and exotic detail)! And there they face four wizards of the Black Circle, whose hands are misshapen demonic things showing that they're not quite human, if they ever were. Making a gesture, one of them enthrals the intruders and gets them to stand before him one by one, where he casually beheads them with one of their own swords. Conan, being a foreigner not taught from birth that it was useless to resist those wizards (and apparently helped by the magical girdle that Khemsa gave him last issue), manages to break the spell. But instead of rushing the wizards, he remembers the late wizard's words about "breaking the crystal ball" and runs to the altar. He strikes it several time, which results in the four sorcerers screaming in agony. Eventually, the glass shatters completely and the four pomegranates fly straight up to the heavens as the sorcerers drop dead. It's now time for the big baddie, the Master of Yimsha, to make an appearance. He first states that he will take Kerim Shah's heart, and as he gestures the Turanian's heart does indeed burst out of his chest to land in the wizard's outstretched hand. Gruesome, but what a scene! He then turns toward Conan but once again the magical girdle protects the Cimmerian. Conan slashes at the wizard and feels the blade hitting something, but his opponent who turns into a giant snake that slithers quickly up a flight of stairs. Conan follows and reaches the beast as it's about to sink its fangs into a hapless queen Yasmina! A thrown sword and the skillful use of a knife force the wounded beast to retreat; as Conan follows, he sees the bloody tracks turn into bloody footprints. The Master of Yimsha is indeed a master of transmutation! Yasmina then catches up with him and the two embrace passionately. Conan and the queen then retrace his steps all the way back to where he had left his horse and ride away. Yasmina expects the Cimmerian to ransom her, but he has no ionterest in money: he wants her to ride with him, to remain the woman of flesh and blood she is now and not resume her role as the aloof and godly queen of Vendhya. As they argue the question, they reach the edge of a valley where a great battle is under way: it is the Turanians that the late Kerim Shah had summoned who are facing Conan's faithless Afghuli followers. Conan decides grudgingly that he can't abandon his men, even if they turned his back on him first; Yasmina counters that he can't very well leave her alone to die in the mountain either. The conundrum is resolved when another army shows up: the Vendhyans looking for their queen! Yasmina reasons quickly that she can go to them, have herself recognized and lead them against the Turanians while Conan goes to rally his Afghuli. All Conan has to do is to choose his responsibilities over his desire of her. (Great Peter Parker moment, here, in a Hyborian context)! The plan works and the Turanians are routed. But the day is not quite won yet: Yasmina is suddenly attacked by a giant vulture that swoops down from the sky! Conan succeeds in reaching it before it can harm the queen, and he stabs it with his sword. The bird screams with a human voice and falls off a cliff, its body turning into that of the Master of Yimsha. Conan and Yasmina part ways in a flirty manner, each trying to outdo the other in the "I'm master of my own fate" department. One of Howard's best Conan stories, and one heck of an adaptation!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 12, 2014 14:30:13 GMT -5
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 12, 2014 14:48:57 GMT -5
The man who was Conan, by Fred Blosser A review of the book The last celt, a bio-bibliography of Robert E. Howard written by that pioneer among Howard scholars, the late and lamented Glenn Lord. That's one book I wouldn't mind reading someday, even if I suspect that the informations it gives have been pilfered by several more recent works on the same subject. The castle of the devilScript by Don Glut Art by Alan Kupperberg and Sonny Trinidad This is an adaptation and expansion of a fragment left by Robert E. Howard, the beginning of a Solomon Kane adventure. Oddly enough, the title is not given in the story itself, although it appears in the table of contents. In this story, Kane meets another English adventurer, one John Silent; and it is really the sign of a great writer that the one thing that stands out in this story is Silent's character. You just want to know more about him! Howard wrote just a handful of pages of the devil's castle, but Silent's creation is all his. In Howard's story, Kane meets Silent after taking a boy down from a gibbet, and he explains that he intends to demand justice for the child's death from the local lord, the ill-reputed baron von Staler. Silent decides to go with him. That's all Howard wrote. Here the dead boy is turned into a still-breathing naked young woman, which allows the writer to turn Kane into something of a dick. The Puritan covers the lass's nakedness not out of compassion but so her state of undress won't give him a boner. Oh, boy. Baron von Staler turns out to be a mutant of sorts: he was born with the legs of a goat. Instead of thanking mother nature for this great way to save on shoes, he decided to make a pact with the devil: he would sacrifice five virgins every year, and at the end he would get normal legs. (The lass on the gibbet was to know that fate too, but it was discovered a bit too late that the flower had been plucked early and that she was no longer suitable). Kane and Silent, who got into the castle by pretending to be swords for hire, interrupt the unholy ceremony and as a result the baron turns entirely into a Satan-like figure whom his own men put to the sword. The end. The art is more Trinidad than Kupperberg and it's not in the league of Wenzel, Weis or even Chaykin. The baron looks like a XIXth century Prussian and his guards look like XIVth century soldiers. It gets the job done, but that's about it. (Oh, and we see some naughty bits! Was that allowed, even in a black and white magazine?) Finally, a house ad that brought a nostalgic smile to my face: Star Wars, at the time an almost-unknown thing, was about to save Marvel's comic-book business; and the House of Ideas became the host of these two great creations, Tarzan and John Carter. Ah, memories...
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jul 13, 2014 10:35:35 GMT -5
I'm about to start buying the Dark Horse Savage Sword of Conan editions. I bought the first Chronicles of Conan, but initially didn't like the overdone modern coloring. I took a look at it again today, and found it to be better than I remember. Eh. I'd still like an original coloring alternative from Dark Horse.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 13, 2014 12:08:55 GMT -5
I'm about to start buying the Dark Horse Savage Sword of Conan editions. I bought the first Chronicles of Conan, but initially didn't like the overdone modern coloring. I took a look at it again today, and found it to be better than I remember. Eh. I'd still like an original coloring alternative from Dark Horse. You're in good company, Trebor! Few fans prefer the new coloring to the original, and many actually hate in in places. (the splash page of CtB #11 totally overdoes it with the gradient effects and ruins BWS's line art). Even when the new colors look good, I don't particularly understand why the original color scheme wasn't respected. Maybe it was more hassle than do everything over. The Kull the conqueror trade reprinted the original colors, dots and all. It doesn't look as slick as Photoshop coloring, but I prefer things that way.
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Post by paulie on Jul 18, 2014 9:52:07 GMT -5
I'm about to start buying the Dark Horse Savage Sword of Conan editions. I bought the first Chronicles of Conan, but initially didn't like the overdone modern coloring. I took a look at it again today, and found it to be better than I remember. Eh. I'd still like an original coloring alternative from Dark Horse. You're in good company, Trebor! Few fans prefer the new coloring to the original, and many actually hate in in places. (the splash page of CtB #11 totally overdoes it with the gradient effects and ruins BWS's line art). Even when the new colors look good, I don't particularly think why the original color scheme wasn't respected. Maybe it was more hassle than do everything over. The Kull the conqueror trade reprinted the original colors, dots and all. It doesn't look as slick as Photoshop coloring, but I prefer things that way. I enjoyed the new coloring on the Dark Horse Conan reprints and found the dot coloring on the Kull reprints distracting. I prefer the color of the originals best.
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jul 18, 2014 11:54:32 GMT -5
I'm about to start buying the Dark Horse Savage Sword of Conan editions. I bought the first Chronicles of Conan, but initially didn't like the overdone modern coloring. I took a look at it again today, and found it to be better than I remember. Eh. I'd still like an original coloring alternative from Dark Horse. You're in good company, Trebor! Few fans prefer the new coloring to the original, and many actually hate in in places. (the splash page of CtB #11 totally overdoes it with the gradient effects and ruins BWS's line art). Even when the new colors look good, I don't particularly think why the original color scheme wasn't respected. Maybe it was more hassle than do everything over. The Kull the conqueror trade reprinted the original colors, dots and all. It doesn't look as slick as Photoshop coloring, but I prefer things that way. I'm not sure what the thought process is on the overdone coloring, either. I can't see these collections appealing to newer fans as compared to the current Dark Horse material. Most fans of the classic stuff favor respectful restoration. I think I'm getting spoiled with the various Fantagraphic's collections I'm ordering (Bark's Ducks, Fosters Prince Valiant, Kelly's Pogo, etc.) Eh. I've decided to start collected the trades and just enjoy the stories. It seems that Vol. 2 and 3 are currently out of print, so I might just go the digital route. (They're offering Vol.1-3 for just 24 bucks in a digital bundle.)
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jul 18, 2014 11:57:32 GMT -5
You're in good company, Trebor! Few fans prefer the new coloring to the original, and many actually hate in in places. (the splash page of CtB #11 totally overdoes it with the gradient effects and ruins BWS's line art). Even when the new colors look good, I don't particularly think why the original color scheme wasn't respected. Maybe it was more hassle than do everything over. The Kull the conqueror trade reprinted the original colors, dots and all. It doesn't look as slick as Photoshop coloring, but I prefer things that way. I enjoyed the new coloring on the Dark Horse Conan reprints and found the dot coloring on the Kull reprints distracting. I prefer the color of the originals best. I wonder if they've ever considered putting the pirated versions that you can find in torrents up digitally? They wouldn't have to scan them and I'm assuming the formatting would be minimal. There are a few DC comics on Comixology that are scans of original issues.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 19, 2014 15:40:55 GMT -5
The savage sword of Conan #20, July 1977 issue.I like the Earl Norem cover, which artfully uses a monster's tentacle-like eyebrow to flirt with what is permissible on the cover of a Marvel magazine. The red light coming from the bottom of the pit is a nice touch. The frontispiece is drawn by Mike Nasser and inked by Dick Giordano; I haven't seen much Nasser work on Conan. This issue's contents: The slithering shadow, a Conan adventure. Sing a song of Sonjas, a text piece on cos-play at the San Diego comicon. Solomon Kane's homecoming, an illustrated poem starring the adventurous Puritan.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 19, 2014 15:59:18 GMT -5
The slithering shadowScript by Roy Thomas, adapting a Conan story by Robert E. Howard Art by John Buscema and Alfredo Alcala This story is by and large regarded as a minor Conan story, one of the most formulaic. I must admit that I still like it a lot, simple as it may be. Its original title under Howard's pen (or on his typewriter) was Xuthal of the dusk, which was changed by Farnsworth Wright when it was published in the September 1933 issue of Weird Tales. In more recent reprintings, it often returned to its original intended title. Roy was aware of the name change, since the table of contents does call the city "Xuthal of the dusk", and that one of the chapters of the comics adaptation is so titled. Mr. Thomas always likes giving us those literary easter eggs, much to my delight. The cover of that Weird Tales issue does not feature Conan, but a kinky scene from the story in which one female character whips another. Howard knew that his readership enjoyed such scenes, and Weird Tales knew that they sold magazines. Margaret Brundage (the cover artist), in this excerpt from the famous Etchings & Odyssey Interview, relates how that type of cover sold paper: E & O: Do you recall your most controversial cover?Margaret Brundage: We had one issue that sold out! It was the story of a very vicious female, getting a-hold of the heroine and tying her up and beating her. Well, the public apparently thought it was flagellation, and the entire issue sold out. They could have used a couple of thousand extra.I don't know what cover she's referring to; however, actual flagellation scenes were not only not uncommon, but frequent in Conan-related covers! Here is the cover for the issue that featured the slithering shadow: And here, a few months later, the cover of the issue where a witch shall be born was first seen. Let's whip those readers into a frenzy!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 19, 2014 16:22:23 GMT -5
Our story begins with a lovely splash page where Alcala is in his full Gustave Doré mode. Whatever people might think of this issue's plot, it looks beautiful. When did this adventure occur? It is supposed to happen after previous issue's the people of the black circle. However, this cannot be right. People of the black circle happened shortly after the devil in iron, (it could be argued that it's the other way around, but in both stories the king of Turan is Yezdigerd). Whatever be the case, the devil in iron mentions the events from the slithering shadow (a rare case of cross-story continuity in the Conan stories). It must therefore be placed earlier in Conan's career. Not too early, though, because Conan speaks Stygian in this story; he must have had time to travel long enough to pick the language up. In any case, Conan has lately worked as a mercenary, serving a rebel prince of Koth who has just been trounced by the king of that country. The remnants of the army traveled south, plundering as they went, through the lands of Shem, Stygia and Kush, most of them dying along the way. Conan and a camp-girl he picked up along the way, a Brythunian named Natala, are now alone in some southern desert (beyond even Kush, that's pretty far south. In real-world terms they're probably getting close to Namibia!) As they're about to die of thirst they espy a city in the distance. No one answers their calls, but the two manage to gain entrance through an unlocked door. The city is decidedly a weird one. There are people sleeping a death-like sleep, one guy who wakes up attacks them for no reason, and meals that have just been prepared are just left unattended. Conan and Natala eat and drink, and then witness something very unsusual: from the corner of a wall, they can see a huge shadow that covers that of a sleeping man… leaving nothing behind when it moves away! A sleeper who just woke up then surprises them, and instead of attacking them like the previous one asks them who they are; he's particularly interested in the blond and fair-skinned Natala, the like of whom he's never seen. Conan doesn't much care for his girlfriend being manhandled, and the sleeper makes clear that he believes the pair to be dream-creatures, not people of flesh and blood. Conan curses this city where dead men rise and shadows eat those who sleep, and hearing the shadow mentioned the newcomer runs away in a panic. He doesn't seem to run far, for just a few moments later his death-scream can be heard from afar. He's apparently run right into the shadow he sought to escape. Conan and Natala agree to leave the city but are then met by another denizen of the ghostly city. That one isn't a native; she's a Stygian named Thalis, who came to the city as a child. She explains that this city, Xuthal, has been founded on the site of an oasis by people from the east. Great scientists, they engineer their food from chemicals and spend their days partaking a drug made from the black lotus. Quite attracted by Conan, she tries to tempt him away from Natala, but the Cimmerian won't have it. She seems to take her disappointment calmly, but as soon as she can she grabs Natala and carries her through the heavy door of a secret passage! The Stygian and Natala struggle in the dark passage, and although Thalis is stronger than the Brythunian, the latter manages to grab her opponent's knife and nick her with it. Enraged, Thalis decides to give the blond girl a good lashing before killing her.
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