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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 7, 2018 10:40:52 GMT -5
I'm up to the three-parter in Detective Comics #705, #706 and #707. It's my favorite Riddler storyline. The Riddler's partners Query and Echo are onboard. (I love those two!) And they kidnap the Clue-Master for a elaborate plot to bedevil the Batman and to steal a valuable piece of sports memorabilia! My favorite line is Query (the redhead) being mean to the Clue-Master: "You ask a lot of questions for a guy called the Clue-Master." I've read A LOT of Batman the last few days so I'll likely be taking a break.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2018 10:53:16 GMT -5
I'm up to the three-parter in Detective Comics #705, #706 and #707. It's my favorite Riddler storyline. The Riddler's partners Query and Echo are onboard. (I love those two!) And they kidnap the Clue-Master for a elaborate plot to bedevil the Batman and to steal a valuable piece of sports memorabilia! I just loved #705-707 because the stories were great and the Riddler's molls Query and Echo were dynamite and the whole story arc is explosive and exciting it's can be.
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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 13, 2018 16:04:33 GMT -5
I didn't read any Detective Comics for a few days, but I was house-sitting last night and I took the next few issues of Detective Comics with me and read a few before I went to bed and a few more this morning. I'm up to Detective Comics #721. So I'm now into the massive cross-over "Cataclysm" where Gotham City is hit by a massive earthquake! (It eventually led into "No Man's Land" in which Gotham City was left to fend for itself when the federal government wouldn't provide funds to rebuild.) I only have the Detective Comics issues of "Cataclysm." At this point, I was pretty tired of cross-overs, but I was still collecting Detective Comics every month and hoping they would stop doing cross-overs and go back to great stories that don't flow through four to eight different titles. There's several years of Detective Comics here that I've barely read. I have only a vague idea of what happened. I read them when I bought them, but I was only reading one in four chapters (or one on six, or whatever). And it went on and on through Cataclysm, Aftershock and No Man's Land. I'm starting to think these cross-overs weren't that bad. The chapters I saw of Cataclysm (Detective Comics #720 and #721) last night are actually kind of intriguing. (Well, except for the way that Robin figures out the secret identity of Quake-Master. It's pretty dumb. But more on that later! I have to go!)
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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 13, 2018 17:33:24 GMT -5
My library system doesn't have a trade for Cataclysm but they seem to have most of the TPBs for No Man's Land. So I'll read those and maybe Detective Comics in the late 1990s won't be such a wasteland for me.
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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 13, 2018 17:52:26 GMT -5
About the Quake-Master … One of the subplots in "Cataclysm" involves a mysterious villain calling himself "Quake-Master." He only appears on TV screens and he has modulated his voice heavily. He claims he caused the big earthquake and he will do it again if Gotham City doesn't pay him a huge ransom. Robin notices something fishy about Quake-Master's phrasing in the broadcasts. He sometimes stops in the middle of a sentence and chooses another word. What does it mean? When it's very obvious what the word is - for example he uses "currency" when "bill" is the more obvious term, it has a "b" in it. So Robin and Batman deduce that the Quake-Master is … the Ventriloquist because of the way he said "g" instead of "b". That's how we got the Ventriloquist's little doll Scarface saying "Gatman" all the time. And why one of the better Scarface stories had a chapter titled "The Gig Heat." So that's why the Ventriloquist is avoiding words with a "b" in his Quake-Master identity. It would give him away because everyone would realize that it's the Ventriloquist and everyone would know he had nothing to do with the earthquake. If you're thinking this doesn't make any sense, you're not alone. The Ventriloquist didn't say "g" instead of "b" because he had a speech impediment. He said "g" instead of "b" because he wasn't a very good ventriloquist. Scarface said things like "Gatman" and "gecause" simply because the Ventriloquist was kind of terrible at it. When the Ventriloquist spoke as himself, he didn't have this problem. So there is absolutely no reason why the Ventriloquist pretending to be the Quake-Master would have to look for words that didn't have a "b" in them so he wouldn't be exposed. I don't know which of the "Cataclysm" writers came up with this, but I have no problem imagining the other "Cataclysm" writers groaning that they had to write this very stupid bit of business into several issues before the truth was revealed.
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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 18, 2018 11:15:02 GMT -5
I'm up to Detective Comics #737. The Joker is holding an election in the section of No Man's Land that he controls, but it's a Joker type of election. Harley Quinn is his campaign manager. I had never realized this: Harley Quinn wasn't introduced into the "regular" DC Universe (as opposed to the Batman Animated Universe) until No Man's Land. So Detective Comics #737 is a very early appearance of Harley in the regular DC Universe. At this point, No Man's Land is a series of four- or five-issue story arcs and they are running through all the various Bat-Books, and as I didn't really like the idea of No Man's Land, I was only buying the chapters in Detective Comics. (I was very devoted to buying every issue of Detective Comics at the time. I knew No Man's Land would end and it would all get back to normal eventually.) So there's quite a few storylines where I only have one chapter. To be honest, these stories don't look bad at all. Some of them are actually pretty intriguing. I think I was only buying Detective Comics at this time, and no other comics. I had gone back to college and didn't have time (or money) to hunt down all these cross-over comics. So I just kept buying Detective Comics issue after issue. The library has No Man's Land Part One in the TPB and I have put in a request, but they don't have any of the rest of it. Maybe I can track it all down eventually.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2018 18:29:02 GMT -5
Hoosier X -- I've never, ever heard of the Quake-Master and an interesting write-up on your part.
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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 20, 2018 11:28:00 GMT -5
And just like that, No Man's Land was over. Well, that's how it seemed to me. Back in 1999 and 2000, I was picking up Detective Comics every month at the newsstand and flipping through it and not really reading it that closely because I wasn't much into No Man's Land. (Re-reading these issues over the last week or so, they are actually pretty good, and I need to find the trades somewhere so I can read all the non-Detective Comics chapters that I missed. I could do without the death of Sarah Essen, though. Boooo!) And then the government decided to help Gotham get back on its feet and the city got funding and all of a sudden Gotham City was pretty much back to normal and Bruce Wayne was attending the opening of the new public library that Wayne Enterprises had paid for. They didn't ignore No Man's Land. There's an ongoing storyline about how many of the people who stayed in Gotham during No Man's Land (OGs (for Original Gothamites)) are hostile and violent towards the people who left (DZs (and I forget what this stands for)). But mostly, we're back to Batman fighting bad guys and No Man's Land and its subplots are in the background. They start this new era with a new logo and a new cover design and a new major storyline with a new villain - Whisper a'Daire! She's great. She's part snake. And she serves Ras al Ghul! This is how you do a Ras al Ghul story! Nothing in comics makes me roll my eyes quite as hard as when I begin to suspect that Ras al Ghul will be showing up soon. (He is used way too much.) But I like this one quite a bit.
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Post by foxley on Aug 20, 2018 19:06:47 GMT -5
DZ is short for 'deserter' if I remember correctly.
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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 23, 2018 10:55:04 GMT -5
I read Detective Comics #750 last night. Since I've been reading every issue beginning with #390, this is 360 issues in a row! One of the neat things about this project is watching the subtle change in format, year by year. This issue looks so much like a modern comic, with the slick pages and the advertising. But it also has a letters page! ("Modern" nostalgia alert! There's a full-page ad for Dark Angel, which I watched religiously for a while.) It's the conclusion to a Ras al Ghul storyline that's been going on since #743. I was really liking this particular Ras storyline, but this one ends rather abruptly and I felt very unsatisfied with the ending. Ras has failed again! Some mastermind! If he ever did gain mastery of the world, he'd just fail at that too. At this point in the series (2000), there was a back-up series called "The Jacobian," which I haven't thought about since it first came out. Well, I re-read the run from Detective Comics #660 to #800 in 2012, and I probably thought about "The Jacobian" then. I'm sure I put just enough thought into it that I decided not to read it. I'm not at all sure that I read more than a chapter or two when I first got these issues back in 2000. Because I vaguely remember the basic set-up, but I don't remember any of this stuff about a mysterious super-hero called "The Moment," which is a major plot point. This is Chapter Five and it goes on for seven more chapters. I'm reading it this time, and after I got to Chapter Three or Four, it feels completely new. It's not that bad. I don't know why I was so harsh when it first came out.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Aug 23, 2018 10:59:43 GMT -5
I read Detective Comics #750 last night. Since I've been reading every issue beginning with #390, this is 360 issues in a row! One of the neat things about this project is watching the subtle change in format, year by year. This issue looks so much like a modern comic, with the slick pages and the advertising. But it also has a letters page! ("Modern" nostalgia alert! There's a full-page ad for Dark Angel, which I watched religiously for a while.) It's the conclusion to a Ras al Ghul storyline that's been going on since #743. I was really liking this particular Ras storyline, but this one ends rather abruptly and I felt very unsatisfied with the ending. Ras has failed again! Some mastermind! If he ever did gain mastery of the world, he'd just fail at that too. At this point in the series (2000), there was a back-up series called "The Jacobian," which I haven't thought about since it first came out. Well, I re-read the run from Detective Comics #660 to #800 in 2012, and I probably thought about "The Jacobian" then. I'm sure I put just enough thought into it that I decided not to read it. I'm not at all sure that I read more than a chapter or two when I first got these issues back in 2000. Because I vaguely remember the basic set-up, but I don't remember any of this stuff about a mysterious super-hero called "The Moment," which is a major plot point. This is Chapter Five and it goes on for seven more chapters. I'm reading it this time, and after I got to Chapter Three or Four, it feels completely new. It's not that bad. I don't know why I was so harsh when it first came out. I still haven't gotten around to reading Rucka's run on any Bat-books except Gotham Central. Given I really like Rucka's work I probably should. But damn I love the covers and trade-dress for this era of Detective.
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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 23, 2018 11:33:22 GMT -5
I read Detective Comics #750 last night. Since I've been reading every issue beginning with #390, this is 360 issues in a row! One of the neat things about this project is watching the subtle change in format, year by year. This issue looks so much like a modern comic, with the slick pages and the advertising. But it also has a letters page! ("Modern" nostalgia alert! There's a full-page ad for Dark Angel, which I watched religiously for a while.) It's the conclusion to a Ras al Ghul storyline that's been going on since #743. I was really liking this particular Ras storyline, but this one ends rather abruptly and I felt very unsatisfied with the ending. Ras has failed again! Some mastermind! If he ever did gain mastery of the world, he'd just fail at that too. At this point in the series (2000), there was a back-up series called "The Jacobian," which I haven't thought about since it first came out. Well, I re-read the run from Detective Comics #660 to #800 in 2012, and I probably thought about "The Jacobian" then. I'm sure I put just enough thought into it that I decided not to read it. I'm not at all sure that I read more than a chapter or two when I first got these issues back in 2000. Because I vaguely remember the basic set-up, but I don't remember any of this stuff about a mysterious super-hero called "The Moment," which is a major plot point. This is Chapter Five and it goes on for seven more chapters. I'm reading it this time, and after I got to Chapter Three or Four, it feels completely new. It's not that bad. I don't know why I was so harsh when it first came out. I still haven't gotten around to reading Rucka's run on any Bat-books except Gotham Central. Given I really like Rucka's work I probably should. But damn I love the covers and trade-dress for this era of Detective. Up next is a two-part Poison Ivy tale that is a top candidate for My Favorite Poison Ivy Story.
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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 24, 2018 14:01:38 GMT -5
Detective Comics #751 and #752 feature a storyline about Poison Ivy. Apparently during No Man's Land she took over the city park (Robinson Park) and turned it into a refuge for dozens of children orphaned or abandoned after the earthquake. There's also giant plant people called "feraks." Also, Ivy has turned green and poisonous and even more naked than usual. So the mayor has decided that No Man's Land is over and the city needs its park back. Ivy won't negotiate so the only solution is to send in the SWAT team and douse the park with a chemical defoliant that will kill the plants and give the children cancer, but it won't kill them. Batman shows up, puts some thought into it and decides that it's worth trying a different approach. One of my favorite Ivy storylines. There has certainly not been an Ivy story that I liked better since #751 and #752 were published. I read this one this morning. It's not a favorite. I must have read it at some point but I don't remember it at all. Arkham Asylum is shutting down its art therapy program. The art instructor thinks its a shame. Look at this comic book that nice Mr. Dent has written and drawn! So that's what this issue is. Harvey's comic book. I like the art but I really expect a lot more from Rucka in writing the kind of comic book that Two-Face would come up with in an art therapy class.
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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 26, 2018 12:28:03 GMT -5
I'm up to Detective comics #760. In the last few issues, we've had a cross-over issue (#754) where the only chapter I've read is the chapter in Detective Comics. It's called "Officer Down" and somebody has shot Commissioner Gordon. It looks like a pretty good cross-over, and I am going to see if the library has the trade. I had gone back to school full-time at this point, and I was very busy and not going to the comic-book shop regularly. So I was getting my comics at the newsstand. I think I was down to just Detective Comics and Cerebus at this point. I had to got to the comic-book shop every so often to pick up Cerebus (usually two or three issues at a time; I'm missing about 15 issues from around #230 to the end) and I also had to get Detective at the comic-book shop if I missed it at the newsstand. So I'm not at all surprised that I didn't get the rest of "Officer Down." #755 is a very good Two-Face one-shot. (I remember buying this one a few months late.) #756 is the second part of a Superman cross-over where Batman and Lois Lane invade the Lex Luthor White House to steal Luthor's kryptonite ring. I never read the first part. As a matter of fact, I somehow missed this issue entirely for a long time. When I was reading what I thought was my complete run from Knightfall to Detective Comics #800, I was missing two issues from No Man's Land and also #756. So I didn't get #756 until 2012. I don't like it much. #757 is a pretty good one-shot where Batman saves a family after their car is run off a cliff road by generic Gotham thugs and they fall into Gotham Harbor and their car is slowly filling with water. #758 to #760 is a three-part Mad Hatter storyline that is one of my favorite Mad Hatter stories. But don't think about Mad Hatter's plan too hard because I'm not sure it makes a whole lot of sense. One of the highlights of this run is Sasha Bordeaux, Bruce Wayne's bodyguard, hired by the Wayne Foundation because of a perceived threat to Wayne's life. Bruce has to ditch her every night so he can become Batman. And instead of being a comic-book ninny like Vicki Vale, they treat Sasha like a real person who figures out that which is obvious. Bruce Wayne is Batman. I have always loved this storyline. Robin and Alfred have both disappeared in the wake of No Man's Land. There has been no explanation in the pages of Detective and I probably missed the reasons because I was only buying Detective at the time. The back-ups: The Jacobian ended (It was OK but it got seriously dumb at the end) and then there was a nice one-shot with Barbara Gordon having dinner with Renee Montoya. And a very nice Slam Bradley storyline started in #759. This I definitely remember thinking was pretty good!
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Post by Hoosier X on Aug 30, 2018 14:36:07 GMT -5
I'm up to Detective Comics #766. For the next few issues, we have the "Bruce Wayne, Murderer" and "Bruce Wayne, Fugitive" cross-overs. This is another one where I only read Detective Comics and didn't read the chapters appearing in Batman, Robin, Batgirl, Gotham Chronicles or whatever other Bat-titles the story ran through. It looks pretty good, actually. I had a pretty busy college schedule at this point, and I'm kind of surprised I was still trekking to the newsstand once a month to get every issue of Detective Comics. (And I was also still picking up most issues of Cerebus, which wouldn't end for a few more years.) (I checked Mike's Amazing World of Comics for issues cover-dated March 2002 and the only comics I recognized are Detective Comics and Cerebus.) I sort of remember being kind of disappointed that the "Bruce Wayne, Murderer" cut short the ongoing subplot with bodyguard Sasha Bordeaux becoming the latest member of the Bat-Family. It seems like they started it, and she was Batman's new assistant and then a few issues later, they're both in custody, accused of killing Vesper Fairchild. I had forgotten how few issues Batman and Sasha spent swinging around and fighting crime. I especially like this one. DC had a company-wide cross-over called "The Last Laugh" where in every comic, somebody got dosed with the Joker's "Crazy Gas" and went on a crazy spree. I think that's what happened. I think I bought the JSA issue. I had been buying JSA sporadically but I quit, and then I picked up JSA #29 because it appears that Solomon Grundy got his with the Joker's gas. I remember the cover but I don't remember the story. Anyway, in the Detective Comics chapter of "The Last Laugh," Sasha strikes out on her own to stop an escaped Arkham inmate called Cucilla, who has been infected by the gas. The Huntress guest stars. The Slam Bradley backup ends in #762 and it was pretty cool! Then we get a backup about a psychic GCPD cop named Josie Mac. I've only read a few chapters. I remember really liking this when it first came out.
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