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Post by Jesse on Jun 12, 2014 17:41:22 GMT -5
After reading the first few pages of Warren Ellis' Trees I'm immediately reminded of Hugo Gernsback's novel Ultimate World. The premise is nearly the same where an alien invasion occurs but the aliens don't make contact. Instead a whole generation of people grow up with the new reality of the alien ships just being there. Both the aliens (or their ships) have very simple descript names, although I much prefer Trees to 10-Balls.
It's a very interesting premise and Ellis does a good job setting up the world and introduces us to a few characters in different locations. I wish there was more to the first issue but it gives us some interesting threads. I get the feeling already that it might read better in TPB though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2014 18:00:15 GMT -5
Why would he? Tell the story you have to tell and then let someone else have their say. normally i'd totally agree with that - but it seems a bit of a bait and switch by both the publisher and author with ellis. New book with Ellis!!... but you are going to get 4 or 6 issues then he's gone - it's cool but i do feel i miss out on his long form story telling and character development. The publisher uses his name to get some traction behind the book, he uses it to keep his name "big", but the reader only gets a few issues before a change. But is that because of Ellis or the publisher? Maybe the publisher was only willing to shell out the cash for a launch story arc from a writer with a following, and then bait and switch the readers with a cheaper writer. Sounds like the kind of things these publishers do. |
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Post by dupersuper on Jun 12, 2014 20:33:47 GMT -5
Does Ellis ever write more than a handful of issues / one arc these days? i was tempted to try moonknight but then i thought oh ellis will be off this just as i'm getting into it. If I remember right he considers his Marvel work basically advertising for his other, creator owned stuff and doesn't want to over-commit to it. Although, honestly, I don't see that much difference in quality. Thunderbolts and Nextwave are as good as anything he's ever written, IMO. Well, for them to work as advertising, they have to be good enough to hook the reader on his stuff. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 12, 2014 22:02:47 GMT -5
Read JMS' Sidekick today.. boy, talk about dark! Sort of 'What if Batman died and Robin couldn't handle it' at first, but then it gets even more dark. I'm not sure I'd say I liked it exactly, but I am intrigued where as to where it's going.. so far there's really no redeeming character at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2014 22:35:48 GMT -5
I just got to thinking, how many "casual" comic fans do you think even pay attention to the credits?
When I was a kid I almost never did. The only ones I knew were Sergio Aragones and Wendy & Richard Pini.
Sergio because he put his name in the title of the comic book. Wendy and Richard because of the letters pages. I didn't know who wrote or drew my Spiderman or Batman though. Not until Todd McFarlane's Spiderman #1 and Jim Lee's X-Men #1, and only then because Wizard and the LCS made such a big deal out of it. That was right around when I quit buying comics too. I bought the first two issues of Spiderman and the first six or so issues of X-Men, but I was growing out of it right when I was being made aware who the creators were. I've always been pretty bad with names so I've never bothered to glance at the creators on that first page as a kid. I've had coworkers I worked alongside for five and six years and never learned their names. There's some distant relatives I only tend to see on Christmas, but have seen them for damn near 30 holidays, and don't know their names. I know whose son or daughter they are and how they are related, but their name continues to slip my mind.
Even today I'm terrible with names and often have to Wiki a creators name to know if I've read anything they've done and if I liked it. I do have a handful of favorite creators now, but when I pick up a new title I still hardly look at the credits.
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Post by Crimebuster on Jun 12, 2014 23:29:43 GMT -5
Anyone reading Ms. Marvel? I got bored and bought the first four issues and it's pretty darn good.
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Post by thecolortechnic on Jun 13, 2014 0:18:56 GMT -5
Yes. Like it quite a bit. Great depiction of teen angst without it being after school soap drama-y (I'm looking at you Young Avengers/Gillen). Art is fantastic too. Clean while still having character and weirdness.
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Post by the4thpip on Jun 13, 2014 1:22:56 GMT -5
Anyone reading Ms. Marvel? I got bored and bought the first four issues and it's pretty darn good. Yeah, I'd dig it on the art alone, but the story is really good and I love the character work. They keep going back to print on issue 1, too, so it seems to do better than Marvel expected. |
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Post by Dizzy D on Jun 13, 2014 3:21:36 GMT -5
And apparently Rocket Raccoon #1 has 300.000 issues pre-ordered so far. 100k of those are 1 customer though: an internet service that sends its subscribers a mix of books and magazines every month and has 100k subscribers.
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Post by the4thpip on Jun 13, 2014 3:44:26 GMT -5
That is awesome. I ordered it, too.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 13, 2014 6:10:51 GMT -5
Read JMS' Sidekick today.. boy, talk about dark! Sort of 'What if Batman died and Robin couldn't handle it' at first, but then it gets even more dark. I'm not sure I'd say I liked it exactly, but I am intrigued where as to where it's going.. so far there's really no redeeming character at all. I bought the first 3 issues. Yeah, he's harassing hookers for free bj's. Yikes! |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 13, 2014 7:14:43 GMT -5
It gets even worse...I won't spoil it (since the TPB is pretty recent), but that was actually the one of Flyboy's high points.
On the train in this morning I read Manifest Destiny... while I'd love to support more history-based comics for alot of reasons.. Buffalo-Minotaurs and Plant Zombies are NOT history. Bleh.
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Post by Rob Allen on Jun 13, 2014 12:23:48 GMT -5
I just got to thinking, how many "casual" comic fans do you think even pay attention to the credits? I didn't until I was about 13. At that point I noticed that I could recognize artists' styles, and it became a game - open a new comic to an inside page, look at the art and try to name the penciller and inker. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2014 22:53:45 GMT -5
And apparently Rocket Raccoon #1 has 300.000 issues pre-ordered so far. 100k of those are 1 customer though: an internet service that sends its subscribers a mix of books and magazines every month and has 100k subscribers. I read an article about that company today. They've been ordering comics like crazy. They were a significant portion of the Spiderman print run I guess. The article said it was "bad for the industry" but I don't see how. I just kind of wished they focused on sending out a nice trade instead of a variant cover #1, since I think a trade would be more likely to bring a new reader in. |
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Post by Spike-X on Jun 14, 2014 7:05:15 GMT -5
normally i'd totally agree with that - but it seems a bit of a bait and switch by both the publisher and author with ellis. New book with Ellis!!... but you are going to get 4 or 6 issues then he's gone - it's cool but i do feel i miss out on his long form story telling and character development. The publisher uses his name to get some traction behind the book, he uses it to keep his name "big", but the reader only gets a few issues before a change. But is that because of Ellis or the publisher? Maybe the publisher was only willing to shell out the cash for a launch story arc from a writer with a following, and then bait and switch the readers with a cheaper writer. Sounds like the kind of things these publishers do. Or maybe they figured six issues by Ellis is better than no issues by Ellis? |
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