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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 12, 2014 12:39:28 GMT -5
I've always had an inexplicable love for Amazo and other one-man super-teams like Super Skrull, Super-Adaptoid and Mimic.
Cei-U!
Was there ever a Titans villain who had all their powers?
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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 12, 2014 12:46:48 GMT -5
I've always had an inexplicable love for Amazo and other one-man super-teams like Super Skrull, Super-Adaptoid and Mimic. Cei-U! Was there ever a Titans villain who had all their powers? I just read The Super-Adaptoid story from X-Men #29 (the Mimic guest-stars!) and, yeah, it was a lot of fun! I've seen the Super-Adaptoid in Tales of Suspense but I can't think of him as a part of the Marvel Universe when I was buying new comics from 1975 to 1985. Did he disappear from comics, or were his later appearances so unmemorable?
I think the Mimic died in an issue of Hulk early in the Bronze Age.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 12, 2014 13:00:27 GMT -5
I remember Super-Adaptoid being the baddie in Marvel Two-in-One #75, which was a sequel to an earlier appearance in an issue of two of Milgrom-era Captain Marvel. Beyond that I know naught.
Cei-U!
D'oh!! I left the Composite Superman off the list!
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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 12, 2014 13:16:00 GMT -5
I remember Super-Adaptoid being the baddie in Marvel Two-in-One #75, which was a sequel to an earlier appearance in an issue of two of Milgrom-era Captain Marvel. Beyond that I know naught. Cei-U! D'oh!! I left the Composite Superman off the list! I was just coming back to mention Composite Superman, who was in just about the only issue of World's Finest that I bought as a kid. (Probably about 1980.) I always avoided World's Finest (and Superman in general) because it looked so dumb every issue. But for some reason I thought Composite Superman looked cool.
And I remember that Super-Adaptoid appearance in Captain Marvel. I didn't collect Captain Marvel but one of my friends did, so I only read it once 35 years ago.
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Post by Crimebuster on Jun 12, 2014 13:35:30 GMT -5
Super-Adaptoid was the focus of a long arc in Avengers. Called "Heavy Metal," it ran from #286-290 and is best known as being the story where Roger Stern resigned mid-arc due to editorial malfeasance by the otherwise laudable Mark Gruenwald. Fabian Nicieza had to step in and finish the storyline.
Essentially, the Super-Adaptoid used a group of other robots and artifical intelligences to gain control of the Cosmic Cube, which created him in the first place. Or... I'm going form memory here, but I think that's right. Something to do with the cube, anyway; I believe Super-Adaptoid is powered by a sliver of the cube himself, so it might have been focused on that.
Anyway, Super-Adaptoid eventually became pwoerful enough to create a vast army of adaptoids. His aim was to have his apadtoids replicate and then replace all humanity, so he was making one adaptoid for every person on Earth, then sending them out to track down, kill and replace that person. The Avengers ended up getting an assist from Kubik, a Cosmic Cube who had attained sentience. This was not enough, though, and the Super-Adaptoid defeated the Avengers.
In a classic sci-fi ending very, very reminiscent of the ending of Avengers #68, Captain America - in the guise of The Captain at the time- defeated Super-Adaptoid via some high level psychology. He basically convinced Super-Adaptoid that no matter how hard he tried to replicate humanity, he could never perfectly do it, because humans die and he, as a robot cannot. Supder-Adptoid decided to prove Captain America wrong - and did, by dropping stone dead on the spot.
That, Super-Adaptoid, is what we like to call a Pyrrhic victory.
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Post by Action Ace on Jun 12, 2014 14:01:37 GMT -5
My first Amazo story was this one  I've enjoyed every appearance since. I'm also a huge fan of the even more ridiculously overpowered Composite Superman. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 12, 2014 22:06:04 GMT -5
I think the better question is, why does Superman need a Supermobile?
(Not that it isn't awesome looking...)
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 12, 2014 22:07:06 GMT -5
To sell toys. Duh!
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 12, 2014 22:59:16 GMT -5
 Brave and the Bold #34 'Creature of a Thousand Shapes' Katar Hol and his wife Shayera have followed the crimnal Byth to Earth, and have to integrate into Earth society to track him, since he can shapeshift. After Byth toys with them a couple times, they at last capture him, and decide to continue to stay on Earth to study Earth police procedure. I actually really enjoyed this one, much more so than the others... it was a slick way to get the new origin in, and art (at least in Showcase B & W) is really nice, and there's some cool animal designs... not to mention that great cover. There's definitely a wide array of groan-worthy silver agey-ness though. First and foremost, why are there Humans in space? (The Hawks actually refer to the people on their planet as human)... I suppose it's probably a editorial slip, but it was silly. Then there's talking to birds... which makes NO sense. Why not use the space ship they have parked in orbit, instead of pigeons? I feel bad for the Museum directors out there, too, having their job so denigrated that an alien could take it over in a day and do just fine. Then again, it's not like he's a good director... I'm pretty sure using the exhibits in the field is a no-no. I LOVED Mavis (the 'pretty girl naturalist') and her flirting with Hawkman... hilarious. Story: B+ Historical Signifigance A- (1st Silver Age Hawks) |
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Post by Action Ace on Jun 12, 2014 23:09:43 GMT -5
I think the better question is, why does Superman need a Supermobile? (Not that it isn't awesome looking...) Next you're going to be asking me why God needs a starship. and I think you were going for groan worthy in the Hawkman review... |
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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 12, 2014 23:21:35 GMT -5
I adore Mavis. She was great in The Shadow War of the Hawkman series in the 1980s.
I don't think I've read this particular story. I only know Silver Age Hawkman from a few 1970s reprints. There was one with the I.Q. Gang, and there was one with crocodile-headed humans.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 13, 2014 6:38:10 GMT -5
I think the better question is, why does Superman need a Supermobile? (Not that it isn't awesome looking...) Next you're going to be asking me why God needs a starship. and I think you were going for groan worthy in the Hawkman review... LOL. It did, I'm sure it made a nifty Matchbox car. I'd have totally begged for it. Yeah, typos that turn into other real words and thus escape spell check are the bane of my existance. Though, they can often be prevent if I post some time before midnight. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 13, 2014 6:40:41 GMT -5
I adore Mavis. She was great in The Shadow War of the Hawkman series in the 1980s. I don't think I've read this particular story. I only know Silver Age Hawkman from a few 1970s reprints. There was one with the I.Q. Gang, and there was one with crocodile-headed humans. I liked her better than Hawkgirl (who was more or less wall paper, other than being jealous)... definitely a far cry from her awesome depiction in the JLA cartoons. The epilogue, where they take her to the forest to 'hunt' for the Thanagarian bird (That doesn't exist on Earth) so she can discover it it pretty hilarious. I didn't realize she was a long term character, that's kinda exciting  |
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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 13, 2014 7:42:09 GMT -5
Although it's easy to miss, that first Hawkman story in B&B #34 says explicitly that it takes "some days" for the Hawks to establish and settle in to their human identities so it wasn't quite as abrupt as wildfire makes it sound. (Yes, my notes include the passage of time within and between issues.)
Cei-U!
Point of order, Mr. Chairman!
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jun 13, 2014 8:54:32 GMT -5
True... it was 'weeks'. In fact.. both to 'get established' and in between battles with Byth, while the Hawks let the local avian population do the work for them. It stuck me that so much time was allowed to pass, actually. I didn't really explain properly, I think.
My issue was two fold.. Hawkman should not be qualified to be an expert in Earth History after hanging in orbit and listening to a few radio broadcasts to learn the language... if he's that brilliant, he should show it, not fly around and whack things with a mace.
Second, why did they get hired to an (assumedly) prestigious position with no resume or references, other the police commissioner (who they just met).
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