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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jun 15, 2015 12:19:26 GMT -5
Nothing? Even ignoring the WWII background itself, Baron Blitzkreig had already been seen in the E2 Wondy's series in World's Finest, and Trevor and Hippolyte have the attributes associated with that continuity. It may not state its setting out loud but it infers it all over the place. Cei-U! I summon the quibble! Alright, alright, I will rephrase. It is odd that a story set on Earth Two never mentioned it was set on Earth Two in the text at all. I wonder why?
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Post by zilch on Jun 16, 2015 1:40:06 GMT -5
Just a quick note...
Duffy's Tavern was also a long running radio (and briefly TV) program.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2015 6:46:41 GMT -5
Nothing? Even ignoring the WWII background itself, Baron Blitzkreig had already been seen in the E2 Wondy's series in World's Finest, and Trevor and Hippolyte have the attributes associated with that continuity. It may not state its setting out loud but it infers it all over the place. Cei-U! I summon the quibble! Alright, alright, I will rephrase. It is odd that a story set on Earth Two never mentioned it was set on Earth Two in the text at all. I wonder why? Did the Wonder Woman stories (in her book & World's Finest) have a note in each issue stating it was an Earth Two story?
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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 16, 2015 6:55:37 GMT -5
Alright, alright, I will rephrase. It is odd that a story set on Earth Two never mentioned it was set on Earth Two in the text at all. I wonder why? Did the Wonder Woman stories (in her book & World's Finest) have a note in each issue stating it was an Earth Two story? As a rule, no, they didn't, the obvious exceptions being the stories that team the two Wonder Women at the beginning and end of the TV-based run. Cei-U! I summon the interesting new factoid!
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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 16, 2015 6:57:25 GMT -5
Secret Society of Super-Villains #12January 1978 (October 17, 1977) $.35 Cover Art: Rich Buckler (Penciller), Jack Abel (Inker), signed “The Plunder Plan!” 17 pages Jack C. Harris (Editor), Gerry Conway (Writer), Mike Vosburg (Penciller), Bob McLeod (Inker), Ben Oda (Letterer), Jerry Serpe (Colorist) FC: The Blockbuster, Copperhead, The Plant Master, The Reverse-Flash, Star Sapphire, The Wizard, teamed as the Secret Society of Super-Villains GS: Batman [of Earth-1], Captain Comet, Robin [of Earth-1] Villains: The Fiddler, The Icicle, The Thinker, teamed with The Wizard as the Injustice Society of the World; in flashback Cameos: The Flash, Power Girl, The Star-Spangled Kid; teamed as the Justice Society of America; in flashback to All-Star Comics #66-67 SynopsisThe Wizard promises Plant Master and Star Sapphire he has big plans for the Secret Society. Captain Comet recaptures Copperhead but the villain resists his telepathic probes. Plant-Master steals the team's newest recruit, the Blockbuster, from under Robin's nose at the Wayne Foundation. The Boy Wonder notifies Batman, who alerts Comet. Joined by his final recruit, the Reverse-Flash, Wizard proposes stealing a “trans-spacial transponder” from S.T.A.R. Labs and using it to return to Earth-Two. Comet trails Blockbuster's brain waves to the scene of the crime but the brute kayoes him. He comes to in time to see the villains vanish into the transponder and unhesitatingly follows them in. ContinuityAccording to this story, the Wizard originally came to Earth-One — courtesy of the Fiddler's magic violin — to recruit villains from that reality for the Injustice Society of the World. This is said to have occurred following the ISW's defeat in the ‘Justice Society of America’ story in All-Star Comics #67. No explanation is offered for how the villains escaped custody following that event nor is there any mention of the Fiddler and the Icicle also traveling to Earth-One (as seen in Teen Titans #46 and Justice League of America #139 respectively). It is not clear if the trio made the transdimensional journey at the same time or if Fiddler and Icicle came later. Fashion WatchThe Icicle's face mask is flesh-colored in this issue, rather than its familiar white The Thinker is depicted without his moustache and carrying forty extra pounds in this issue.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Jun 16, 2015 18:18:35 GMT -5
Alright, alright, I will rephrase. It is odd that a story set on Earth Two never mentioned it was set on Earth Two in the text at all. I wonder why? Did the Wonder Woman stories (in her book & World's Finest) have a note in each issue stating it was an Earth Two story? Oh yeah, you're right, I didn't think of that! The obvious reason, then, is to downplay the Earth-Two connection to tie in with the TV show, which was set in "our" past.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 17, 2015 7:11:59 GMT -5
The Superman Family #187January-February 1978 (October 17, 1977) 1.00 Cover Art: Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez “A Phoenix of Steel!” 8 pages E. Nelson Bridwell (Editor), Gerry Conway (Writer), Curt Swan (Penciller), Jack Abel (Inker), Ben Oda (Letterer), Anthony Tollin (Colorist) FC: Superman [of Earth-One] GS: Superman SC: Jimmy Olsen [of Earth-One], Prof. Phineas Potter Villain: Krogg (dies in this story) synopsisThe Superman of Earth-Two, no more of a match for Krogg than his Earth-One doppelgänger had been, is helpless to prevent the malevolent brute from escaping the Justice League satellite and heading for the planet below. The Men of Steel despair of stopping Krogg until Professor Potter proposes using the transmatter cube to temporarily merge them into a single being, thereby doubling their strength. The merger is successful but Potter warns them that if they are not separated within half an hour, the strain could, at best, result in psychological trauma and, at worst, cause their combined energies to reach critical mass, killing them and possibly destroying the Earth. Renewing ‘his’ struggle with Krogg, the hybrid Superman is able to force the self-proclaimed conqueror of a thousand worlds to bring his own super-energies to critical mass. The villain dies in a cataclysmic explosion. Back at the satellite, Potter separates the heroes in the nick of time. The elder Superman returns to Earth-Two with Jimmy Olsen, who has consented to donate his tissue to save his dying counterpart. The Earth-One Action Ace muses that it will probably be some time before he and his doppelgänger get together again, as the merger was emotionally traumatic. The Good GuysThe Earth-One Superman states in this issue that he and his JSA counterpart have “equal strength,” contradicting repeated assertions in the “Justice Society of America” stories in the Bronze Age issues of All-Star Comics that the Kryptonians of the Earth-Two dimension are inherently less powerful than their Earth-One counterparts. Points to PonderSince the concept introduced in this story that a superhuman being can be driven to reach critical mass and explode is not revisited in subsequent Earth-Two continuity, it may only be true for Krogg, perhaps as a result of his interdimensional origins.
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Post by foxley on Jun 17, 2015 7:19:31 GMT -5
That's an, um, interesting cover there. Is projecting rays from his crotch a previously undocumented power of Superman's?
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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 18, 2015 7:43:59 GMT -5
Wonder Woman #239January 1978 (October 31, 1977) $.35 Cover Art: Rich Buckler (Penciller), Vince Colletta (Inker), signed “A Duke Named Deception!” 17 pages Larry Hama (Editor), Gerry Conway (Writer), Jose Delbo (Penciller), Vince Colletta (Inker), Milt Snappin (Letterer), Jerry Serpe (Colorist) FC: Wonder Woman GS: The Flash SC: Col. Hammond Belushi, Gen. J. Blankenship, Pvt. Etta Candy, Lt. Pierre Marchand, Maj. Steve Trevor Reintro: Mars, also called Ares, Greco-Roman God of War Reintro: The Duke of Deception (true name unknown) SynopsisThe Flash and Wonder Woman foil yet another assassination plot against General MacArthur but she resents his help. She is tired of not being treated as an equal by the male JSAers and resents her role as the team's secretary. A flabbergasted Jay protests that he does consider her an equal, to which she replies before departing, “[T]hink back over our relations in the past… …search your heart… and then tell me you believe I’m as good as you are.” Returning to the hotel room she is sharing with Etta Candy while they are in New York, the Amazon princess is unaware of the overly curious bellboy tracking her movements. Etta is about to leave on a date with Lt. Marchand. Something about the French officer raises Diana's hackles. Her thoughts drift to Steve Trevor, still hospitalized after his encounter with Armageddon. Steve, meanwhile, is stunned by Colonel Belushi's accusations against Wonder Woman, accusations he backs up with photographs of the Amazon's recent rampages. Certain that the woman he loves needs his help, Trevor tries to leave the hospital but collapses after only a few steps. On Mount Olympus, Mars ― bitter enemy of the Amazons ― rages over Wonder Woman's continued interference in his plans to infect all of Earth with the madness of war. One of his servants, the handsome Duke of Deception, proposes to neutralize WW by using his powers of illusion to exacerbate her problems with the American military. Mars agrees and dispatches the Duke to the mortal realm. Later that evening, Diana Prince and Jay Garrick stroll through Battery Park. Apologies are exchanged. The mood is broken when the Statue of Liberty comes to life and begin wading towards Manhattan Island. The copper colossus' motion is, of course, an illusion cast by the Duke of Deception, visible only to Wonder Woman. All Jay sees is his teammate using her super-powers to topple the monument from its pedestal. When he asks her why she has performed this irrational act, she storms off angrily. Flying over the New Jersey docks, the Amazing Amazon sees Nazi submarines disgorging hundreds of German troops. She attacks, unaware she is actually attacking American ships and sailors. The Flash, anxious to stop Diana before she does irrevocable harm, is confronted by a huge sea monster created by Deception to keep the Scarlet Speedster out of the way. As General Blankenship and Colonel Belushi ― just returned to New York ― watch from the observation deck of the Empire State Building, Wonder Woman cuts a destructive swath through the naval station. A few moments later, Wonder Woman pauses to survey the damage only to find herself surrounded by Belushi's troops and ordered to surrender… or die. ContinuityThis story begins the day after the events of Wonder Woman #238. For the first time, the setting for the story arc of which this issue is a part is given as June 1942. The story in this issue is essentially a retelling of the first Duke of Deception story in Wonder Woman #2 (Fall 1942). This version, however, bears almost no resemblance to the original, except in the basic concept of Wonder Woman being framed for a crime. In the original, Deception appeared in his true form throughout and his machinations were a single thread of a complex plot by Mars that involved two other of his minions, Lord Conquest and the Earl of Greed. It is not clear where his appearance in this story fits into the Flash's Golden Age continuity. It presumably occurs either just before or just after the events of the “Flash” story in Flash Comics #32 (August 1942; on sale June 9) but this cannot be confirmed. The Good GuysThe Flash states that he is in New York to attend a scientific conference in his Jay Garrick identity. The Bad GuysMars was last seen in the “Wonder Woman” story in Sensation Comics #104 (July-August 1951). He should not be confused with his Earth-One counterpart introduced in Wonder Woman #159 (January 1966). Because the Duke of Deception appeared in “Wonder Woman” stories throughout the 1940s, '50s and '60s, there is no point at which it can be authoritatively said that the character segues from his Golden Age incarnation to his Silver Age persona. However, since the majority of his appearances in the years following the death of series creator William Moulton Marston occurred in the context of the non-canonical “Wonder Family” stories, this guide will regard the “Wonder Woman” story in Sensation Comics #104 as the last indisputably Earth-Two appearance of the character. Fashion WatchThe Flash is depicted wearing cavalry-style variants of his costume's winged boots in this issue and the next. Etta Candy is back in olive drab in this issue. Mars has grown a beard since his last Golden Age appearance, making him physically identical to his Earth-One counterpart.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 19, 2015 7:14:46 GMT -5
Showcase #97February 1978 (November 14, 1977) $.35 Cover Art: Joe Staton (Penciller), Joe Orlando (Inker), signed “Power Girl” 17 pages Joe Orlando (Editor/Inker), Paul Levitz (Writer), Joe Staton (Penciller), Ben Oda (Letterer), Jerry Serpe (Colorist) FC: Power Girl Villain: Brain Wave (behind the scenes) and his gang Intro: The Symbioship, not named in this issue Intro: Andrew Vinson Intro: Gotham City Police Chief Wilson Intro: Zor-L, in flashback Intro: Alura, seen in flashback SynopsisPower Girl interrupts a robbery at Central Electronics, where a band of costumed thieves seeks to abscond with the company's newest micro-transformers. The crooks are no match for the Earth-Two Maid of Might but their leader manages to escape temporarily. In the end, neither his wall-climbing vehicle nor his nitroglycerin-laced vest can prevent his capture. As PG turns her prey over to the Gotham constabulary, she is surrounded by the press, led by the aggressive Andrew Vinson of The Daily Globe. Power Girl cops an attitude, warning Vinson and the others to stay away. Monitoring these events from the safety of his computer-filled hideout, the unidentified mastermind behind the electronics thieves vows that the heroine “won’t live to interfere again!” Unaware that Vinson is trailing her, Power Girl visits a secluded spot outside the city, a spot of unspecified significance to the superpowered young woman. Drowsy, she nods off and dreams of the Kryptonian city of Kandor where her father Zor-L ― inspired by the example of his brother Jor-L, father of Superman ― built a spaceship to send his infant daughter Kara away from Krypton before the planet was destroyed. Jarred awake by these memories, PG heads back into Gotham. Meanwhile, the determined Globe reporter decides to explore the woods where the heroine napped and finds… something. Power Girl returns in time to tackle more members of the gang she fought earlier attempting to break their cohorts out of police headquarters. Though they come equipped with advanced weaponry this go-round, they have no more success against PG than they had the first time. Again, the press crowds around her at battle's end. Dismissing them contemptuously as “a flock of vultures,” she renews her warning to the reporters, emphasizing her point by stomping her feet hard enough to throw the press corps to the ground. A second later, newsmen and super-heroine are taken by surprise when Andrew Vinson, enclosed in a futuristic spacesuit, swoops down from the sky and blasts Power Girl. Behind the ScenesThis is the first of three “Power Girl” stories to run in Showcase. The tryout would not lead to an ongoing series. CosmologyThis is the first appearance of the Krypton of the Earth-Two dimension (which this guide will hereafter refer to as “Krypton-Two”) in Earth-Two continuity. ContinuityThe story in this issue and the next takes place shortly after Power Girl's departure from JSA headquarters in the “Justice Society of America” story in All-Star Comics #70. The Good GuysThe name of Power Girl's mother is not revealed in this issue. She is listed in the statistics section as Alura on the presumption that she bears the same name as her Krypton-One counterpart, the mother of Supergirl, but this cannot be confirmed. Zor-L and Power Girl's unnamed mother (see preceding note) should not be confused with their Krypton-One counterparts, Zor-El and Alura, introduced in flashback in the “Superman” story in Action Comics #252 (May 1959). Power Girl's parents resided in the city of Kandor rather than in Argo City as did their Krypton-One counterparts. Because there was no Brainiac to steal Kandor in this dimension, its citizens died with the rest of Krypton-Two's population.
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Post by zilch on Jun 19, 2015 15:44:29 GMT -5
The three issue Power Girl tryout was one of my favorite E-2 stories! I SO wanted this to be an ongoing!!
At the end of this series, i'll post an idea i've always had about Brain Wave...
to be continued!!!
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Post by Nowhere Man on Jun 20, 2015 1:04:27 GMT -5
I've started to read your Guide to Earth-Two and it's really great, Cei-U. I few characters I hope to learn a bit more about in the process are the Spectre, Captain Mid-Nite, Sandman and Wildcat. Of those four I've read the most about and with the Spectre. I've read a few of those early Sandman stories and loved the art. The Golden Age Sandman has to be one of the coolest, and creepiest, heroes ever devised.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 20, 2015 6:44:46 GMT -5
World's Finest Comics #249February-March 1978 (November 14, 1977) $1.00 Cover Art: Jim Aparo, signed, main image; Neal Adams (Art), logo headshots “A Fire in the Sky!” !5 pages Jack C. Harris (Editor), Gerry Conway (Writer), Mike Vosburg (Penciller), Bob Smith (Inker), Milt Snappin (Letterer), Jerry Serpe (Colorist) FC: Wonder Woman GS: Sgt. Rock SC: Bulldozer, Ice Cream Soldier and another unidentified member of Easy Company SC: Gen. J. Blankenship, Maj. Steve Trevor, Joan White Villains: Doctor Psycho, Oragon Villains: The Krell SynopsisMesmerized by Doctor Psycho, Sgt. Rock fires his pistol at Wonder Woman. After deflecting his shots with her bracelets, the Amazon strikes the non-com just hard enough to break Psycho's hold over him. So confident were Psycho and his Nazi allies that Rock would kill our heroine that they left them unguarded. They flee into the German countryside, taking with them the unconscious alien WW had rescued from the demolished missile factory. Discovering their escape, Psycho uses his powers of ectoplasmic manipulation to transform the captive Easy Company into prehistoric savages. Back in London, Steve Trevor and General Blankenship learn that the British have scheduled a bombing strike against Psycho's “flying bomb” factory. The American officers, fearing for the lives of Rock and his team, plead for more time but it is too late to call off the raid. Wonder Woman and Sgt. Rock question the extraterrestrial. Bound in the Amazing Amazon's magic lasso, the alien reveals that he and his people are descendants of the Krell, a race that ruled the galaxy until “three thousand years ago, [when] in a single night, the Krell disappeared.” He and his crewmates have come to Earth as part of their mission “to explore new worlds, contact bold civilizations, to boldly go where no Krell has gone before.” For all their technological sophistication, the Krell are remarkably gullible. They believed Psycho's lies because “we saw no reason to disbelieve.” The interrogation is interrupted by Rock's transformed men. Despite their great strength, the ‘cavemen’ are quickly subdued and, with the aid of Diana's lasso, restored to their true forms and right minds. Rock and Easy will find the Krell spaceship while Wonder Woman tries to persuade Oragon, its commander, that he has been duped. Neither is aware that a squad of British bombers are only twenty minutes away. Oragon is already becoming aware of Psycho's duplicity. When he decries the woman-hating dwarf's glee over the impending deaths of the Americans as “not the reaction of a peaceful man,” Psycho responds by growing to gigantic size and threatening to crush Oragon should he try backing out of their deal. The illusion is shattered a moment later when Wonder Woman kayoes Joan White, the medium without whom Psycho's powers cannot function. At that moment, the Allied bombing raid begins. Wonder Woman and Oragon flee with the captive Psycho and Joan to the Krell spaceship, now in the hands of Easy Company. The alien craft escapes in the nick of time. Behind the ScenesThis is the final episode of the Earth-Two Wonder Woman's Bronze Age series in World's Finest Comics. The Krell's mission statement is a paraphrase of the familiar title sequence for the Star Trek television series. ContinuityA footnote in this story states that the Krell first appeared in the story “The Answer Man of Space” in Mystery in Space #73. In that story, however, the alien race is called the Krull and they vanished a million years ago (from that story's 22nd Century vantagepoint), a full 995,000 years earlier than the three millennia cited here. The Good GuysThe unidentifed third member of Easy Company is depicted in this issue with a moustache and goatee. He was clean-shaven in the previous issue. The Bad GuysDoctor Psycho is seen reading a copy of the Necronomicon, the book of black magic bound in human skin that figures prominently in the horror fiction of H. P. Lovecraft, in the flashback to his origin in this issue.
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Post by paulie on Jun 20, 2015 14:16:03 GMT -5
World's Finest Comics #249February-March 1978 (November 14, 1977) $1.00 Cover Art: Jim Aparo, signed, main image; Neal Adams (Art), logo headshots “A Fire in the Sky!” !5 pages Jack C. Harris (Editor), Gerry Conway (Writer), Mike Vosburg (Penciller), Bob Smith (Inker), Milt Snappin (Letterer), Jerry Serpe (Colorist) FC: Wonder Woman GS: Sgt. Rock SC: Bulldozer, Ice Cream Soldier and another unidentified member of Easy Company SC: Gen. J. Blankenship, Maj. Steve Trevor, Joan White Villains: Doctor Psycho, Oragon Villains: The Krell SynopsisMesmerized by Doctor Psycho, Sgt. Rock fires his pistol at Wonder Woman. After deflecting his shots with her bracelets, the Amazon strikes the non-com just hard enough to break Psycho's hold over him. So confident were Psycho and his Nazi allies that Rock would kill our heroine that they left them unguarded. They flee into the German countryside, taking with them the unconscious alien WW had rescued from the demolished missile factory. Discovering their escape, Psycho uses his powers of ectoplasmic manipulation to transform the captive Easy Company into prehistoric savages. Back in London, Steve Trevor and General Blankenship learn that the British have scheduled a bombing strike against Psycho's “flying bomb” factory. The American officers, fearing for the lives of Rock and his team, plead for more time but it is too late to call off the raid. Wonder Woman and Sgt. Rock question the extraterrestrial. Bound in the Amazing Amazon's magic lasso, the alien reveals that he and his people are descendants of the Krell, a race that ruled the galaxy until “three thousand years ago, [when] in a single night, the Krell disappeared.” He and his crewmates have come to Earth as part of their mission “to explore new worlds, contact bold civilizations, to boldly go where no Krell has gone before.” For all their technological sophistication, the Krell are remarkably gullible. They believed Psycho's lies because “we saw no reason to disbelieve.” The interrogation is interrupted by Rock's transformed men. Despite their great strength, the ‘cavemen’ are quickly subdued and, with the aid of Diana's lasso, restored to their true forms and right minds. Rock and Easy will find the Krell spaceship while Wonder Woman tries to persuade Oragon, its commander, that he has been duped. Neither is aware that a squad of British bombers are only twenty minutes away. Oragon is already becoming aware of Psycho's duplicity. When he decries the woman-hating dwarf's glee over the impending deaths of the Americans as “not the reaction of a peaceful man,” Psycho responds by growing to gigantic size and threatening to crush Oragon should he try backing out of their deal. The illusion is shattered a moment later when Wonder Woman kayoes Joan White, the medium without whom Psycho's powers cannot function. At that moment, the Allied bombing raid begins. Wonder Woman and Oragon flee with the captive Psycho and Joan to the Krell spaceship, now in the hands of Easy Company. The alien craft escapes in the nick of time. Behind the ScenesThis is the final episode of the Earth-Two Wonder Woman's Bronze Age series in World's Finest Comics. The Krell's mission statement is a paraphrase of the familiar title sequence for the Star Trek television series. ContinuityA footnote in this story states that the Krell first appeared in the story “The Answer Man of Space” in Mystery in Space #73. In that story, however, the alien race is called the Krull and they vanished a million years ago (from that story's 22nd Century vantagepoint), a full 995,000 years earlier than the three millennia cited here. The Good GuysThe unidentifed third member of Easy Company is depicted in this issue with a moustache and goatee. He was clean-shaven in the previous issue. The Bad GuysDoctor Psycho is seen reading a copy of the Necronomicon, the book of black magic bound in human skin that figures prominently in the horror fiction of H. P. Lovecraft, in the flashback to his origin in this issue. Was this the first time Rock encountered extra-terrestrials? The only time?
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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 20, 2015 17:47:14 GMT -5
Was this the first time Rock encountered extra-terrestrials? The only time? I suspect the answer is "Yes" to both but I can't say for sure, as I've only indexed rock up through '71. Cei-U! I summon the equivocation!
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