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Post by shaxper on Apr 8, 2015 22:58:46 GMT -5
Completed The Samurai Trilogy tonight with Samurai III: Duel at Ganryu Island (1956). Wow. The series just kept getting better. The acting was phenomenal, Inagaki's directing truly matured into cinematic art by this point, the actors and make-up capture the passage of time across these films so amazingly convincingly, and, somehow, Inagaki implores you to love the villains just as much as the protagonists as the script works to make you understand that what separates the good from the bad often comes down to a small twist of fate. One easily could have been the other. Truly, you weep for them all equally, and I definitely did some weeping in this final installment as the overall series finally revealed itself as a great tragedy -- one that I hope to return to again and again.
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Post by shaxper on Apr 9, 2015 8:49:06 GMT -5
Knowing never to take thwhtguardian's recommendations lightly, I checked out Orochi (1925) today. As great a fan as I am of 1920s foreign films, I'd never seen one from Japan before and was amazed by both the technical and choreographic achievement of that climactic battle. Both the actors and the camera did some truly amazing things, and I love that, in all the fights leading up to that one, the protagonist fought bare-handed, so that finally drawing out the sword for a battle against an entire city was all the more thrilling in contrast. However, I was not a fan of the story. Apparently, the filmmaker was forced to change the film's name from the Japanese word for "Outlaw" to the Japanese word for "Snake" out of concern that an outlaw should be celebrated as a hero, but that's exactly what this film is -- revering a character who acts purely out of rashness and self-interest and is, in all ways, a thug and bully, yet the narration persists in explaining that none of what happens to him is his own fault; there is no justice in the world. It's like the Japanese version of Scarface, only instead of having the villain own who he is, he continually makes excuses for it. Seems the exact opposite of what I've come to understand that honor means to the Japanese, especially in Samurai culture. But it's a well done film, and that climactic battle was astonishing. Thanks much for the recommendation, thwhtguardian!
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Post by shaxper on Apr 9, 2015 8:52:23 GMT -5
using his perceived status as an outlaw he uncovers a plot against his lord and saves the day. You know, I'm beginning to wonder if I watched the right film. It's called Orochi, and it's apparently from 1925, but this never happened in the film, and I'm pretty sure the image you provided isn't from a scene in the film I watched either. Here's the one I watched: Did we watch the same thing??
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Post by paulie on Apr 9, 2015 16:48:53 GMT -5
Completed The Samurai Trilogy tonight with Samurai III: Duel at Ganryu Island (1956). Wow. The series just kept getting better. The acting was phenomenal, Inagaki's directing truly matured into cinematic art by this point, the actors and make-up capture the passage of time across these films so amazingly convincingly, and, somehow, Inagaki implores you to love the villains just as much as the protagonists as the script works to make you understand that what separates the good from the bad often comes down to a small twist of fate. One easily could have been the other. Truly, you weep for them all equally, and I definitely did some weeping in this final installment as the overall series finally revealed itself as a great tragedy -- one that I hope to return to again and again. Without even looking at this thread I coincidentally watched the Samurai Trilogy over the last two nights. I don't like the first film much either though it starts off promising enough with the Battle of Sekigahara. The two 'Duel' pics are fantastic though and worth getting through the previous 90 minutes of back story so you can get a better grasp on the context. The end of Ganryu Island is pretty good isn't it? One thing that did disappoint though was the films were shot in Eastman Color and not the more lavish Technicolor. There was a little sheen and opulence missing because of that. I'm sure this is more pronounced when watching on Blu Ray as opposed to DVD.
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Post by shaxper on Apr 9, 2015 16:53:24 GMT -5
One thing that did disappoint though was the films were shot in Eastman Color and not the more lavish Technicolor. There was a little sheen and opulence missing because of that. I'm sure this is more pronounced when watching on Blu Ray as opposed to DVD. Eastman color...less lavish? Less garish, perhaps, but have you ever seen a restored copy of Forbidden Planet? Man, those colors are breath-taking. I think the colors come from a combination of a lack of restoration and a desire by the director to avoid a lavish show of color. Even though utilizing color at all, as well as making a three part trilogy, were very ambitious high profile decisions, the films exude Buddhist philosophy, and that extends to the visuals, which often value balance of visual arrangement over showmanship.
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Post by shaxper on Apr 9, 2015 19:06:49 GMT -5
Zatoichi 1: The Tale of Zatoichi (1962)An emphatic ho-hum on this one. While the concept of a poor blind masseuse who taught himself to become Japan's finest swordsman as a means of getting people to leave him alone is enticing, that's pretty much all this film has to offer. There's an elaborate and yet thoroughly uninteresting plot about a war between two gambling houses, plus a ton of the standard samurai flick cliches (to which this film does no justice). Add to that low quality directing and a thoroughly uncharismatic lead actor, and I'm left wondering how the heck this film spawned twenty five (yes, twenty five) sequels.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 20:09:51 GMT -5
I've got some of the "serious" films Criterion has put out recently, but I've always preferred the absurd stuff; guys running straight up trees like a cartoon, projectile vomiting acid, women catching energy balls in their *ahem* and shooting them back, anything Rudy Ray Moore did.
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Post by shaxper on Apr 9, 2015 21:42:18 GMT -5
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Post by shaxper on Apr 9, 2015 21:44:55 GMT -5
Well, unless I decide to make a detour into Throne of Blood or The Hidden Fortress, I think this marks the end of the Samurai portion of my martial arts viewing this month. Next up, a whole lot a' kung fu...
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 10, 2015 18:29:08 GMT -5
using his perceived status as an outlaw he uncovers a plot against his lord and saves the day. You know, I'm beginning to wonder if I watched the right film. It's called Orochi, and it's apparently from 1925, but this never happened in the film, and I'm pretty sure the image you provided isn't from a scene in the film I watched either. Here's the one I watched: Did we watch the same thing?? I'm thinking maybe the subtitles on mine must have been different, and the film perhaps edited because it looks the same to me. It was a dollar store DVD I picked up so it's certainly within the realm of possibility, and certainly interesting that one could use the same footage to tell a different story.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 10, 2015 18:35:04 GMT -5
Rashomon (1950)Feudal Japan meets a courtroom drama meets the existential quest for goodness and truth. Obviously, when it comes to Kurosawa, you can expect less emphasis on the swords and more emphasis on the souls they represent. While this is not my favorite Kurosawa film (side note: I still need to see Ran), the acting is phenomenal, and (in keeping with what I've come to expect from Kurosawa) the cinematography is some of the finest I have ever seen. Add to that a possessed medium speaking from beyond the dead and the most brutally honest sword fight in all of cinema history (complete with stumbling, crying, and abject fear of killing as much as of dying), and you've got yourself one hell of a viewing experience. I apologize in advance for all the screen shots, but I just HAD to share these: This is seriously one of my favorite films of all time, and I talked about it a fair bit back during our noir month as I think it certainly fits into that genre despite being a samurai film. And man are you right about adding those screen shots, just look at them...they're stunning and just about every frame in the rest of the film is too so to anyone who hasn't seen this one yet go do it.
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Post by shaxper on Apr 10, 2015 18:38:35 GMT -5
You know, I'm beginning to wonder if I watched the right film. It's called Orochi, and it's apparently from 1925, but this never happened in the film, and I'm pretty sure the image you provided isn't from a scene in the film I watched either. Here's the one I watched: Did we watch the same thing?? I'm thinking maybe the subtitles on mine must have been different, and the film perhaps edited because it looks the same to me. It was a dollar store DVD I picked up so it's certainly within the realm of possibility, and certainly interesting that one could use the same footage to tell a different story. Maybe when they renamed it, they also changed the subtitles to make him a clear hero instead of a renegade. It's also clear that the version I linked to has been altered over time. There's no way all that additional narration was present in the form of a voice-over in 1925. So I'd be curious to know which of our versions is closer to the original.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 10, 2015 19:45:11 GMT -5
I'm thinking maybe the subtitles on mine must have been different, and the film perhaps edited because it looks the same to me. It was a dollar store DVD I picked up so it's certainly within the realm of possibility, and certainly interesting that one could use the same footage to tell a different story. Maybe when they renamed it, they also changed the subtitles to make him a clear hero instead of a renegade. It's also clear that the version I linked to has been altered over time. There's no way all that additional narration was present in the form of a voice-over in 1925. So I'd be curious to know which of our versions is closer to the original. It's hard to tell as from my research there is little to no information on this film despite the fact that I think it was a pretty amazing film, at least on a technical level. I've seen a lot of films from the 20's and I can't say I've seen action filmed any better or more realistically as those sword fights looked very real.
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Post by shaxper on Apr 10, 2015 19:58:46 GMT -5
Maybe when they renamed it, they also changed the subtitles to make him a clear hero instead of a renegade. It's also clear that the version I linked to has been altered over time. There's no way all that additional narration was present in the form of a voice-over in 1925. So I'd be curious to know which of our versions is closer to the original. It's hard to tell as from my research there is little to no information on this film despite the fact that I think it was a pretty amazing film, at least on a technical level. I've seen a lot of films from the 20's and I can't say I've seen action filmed any better or more realistically as those sword fights looked very real. Yep. One thing I have been able to learn about this film was that it was the first to stage Samurai battles in real-time as opposed to Kabuki-like slow motion. Man, did they succeed.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Apr 10, 2015 20:12:02 GMT -5
It's hard to tell as from my research there is little to no information on this film despite the fact that I think it was a pretty amazing film, at least on a technical level. I've seen a lot of films from the 20's and I can't say I've seen action filmed any better or more realistically as those sword fights looked very real. Yep. One thing I have been able to learn about this film was that it was the first to stage Samurai battles in real-time as opposed to Kabuki-like slow motion. Man, did they succeed. You can say that again, and it's especially impressive as when you look at the portrayal of action in western films at the same time the fights are all very staged looking with big, unrealistic looking hay makers or else done in an almost tongue in cheek like fashion.
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