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Post by tonebone on Apr 15, 2024 9:29:31 GMT -5
I'm going to go with the IDW run, I especially loved the series that attempted to retell classic trek stories in the Kelvin Universe. It's funny... ST's License can be tricky. During the Marvel 70's run, they were only allowed to use characters, settings, situations that were present in ST The Motion Picture. No Original Series, no extended universe, etc. They had to pretend that the ONLY ST was the original movie, and build upon that. CBS owned the TV Show, Paramount owned the movies, and never the twain shall meet. With subsequent licenses, they were allowed to incorporate the tv series material into the "movie" era comics. Some of the more recent IDW comics do a great job with this. Now, the Kelvin Timeline movies are a whole different animal, from what I understand, but they, can reference anything the movies did. And now it's further complicated by the new series' content... Discovery, etc. When the original Enterprise was shown on Discovery, people balked at how it had been changed so radically from the classic tv version... but contractually, the producers could only use the classic Enterprise if they changed it "at least 25 percent". |
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Post by driver1980 on Apr 15, 2024 9:38:21 GMT -5
At least 25%? Wow, I did not know that.
How would one even define 25%? I do understand maths and percentages, if one had to pay 25% more income tax, that’s easy to understand. But how do you change something by 25%? For instance, how do you change attire, character motivations or ship designs by 25%?
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Post by tonebone on Apr 15, 2024 14:00:14 GMT -5
At least 25%? Wow, I did not know that. How would one even define 25%? I do understand maths and percentages, if one had to pay 25% more income tax, that’s easy to understand. But how do you change something by 25%? For instance, how do you change attire, character motivations or ship designs by 25%? That's a good question... I'm sure it involves a bunch of people in suits. Here is a quote from a facebook post, which has since been deleted. Taking to Facebook to discuss the release of a calendar featuring an early design of the Discovery version, show designer John Eaves explained a bit about the process.“Back in April of 2017 the task of the Enterprise making an appearance came to be and work was to start right away,” Eaves explained (with some of the grammar modified for readability). “The task started with the guideline that the Enterprise for Discovery had to be 25% different, otherwise production would have most likely been able to use the original design from the 60's. But that couldn’t happen so we took Jefferies’ original concepts and with great care tried to be as faithful as possible. We had the advantage of a ten-year gap in Trek history to retro the ship a bit with elements that could be removed and replaced somewhere in the time frame of Discovery and the Original series.”That guideline, apparently, came from legal, as Eaves went on to explain in a comment below the main post.“After Enterprise, properties of Star Trek ownership changed hands and was divided,, so what was able to cross TV shows up to that point changed and a lot of the crossover was no longer allowed,” he said. “That is why when JJ [Abrams]’s movie came along everything had to be different. The alternate universe concept was what really made that movie happen in a way as to not cross the new boundaries and give Trek a new footing to continue.”
After the post was deleted, the Discovery spokespeople insisted it was a "creative decision" and legal reasons had nothing to do with it. |
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Post by tonebone on Apr 15, 2024 15:18:08 GMT -5
One thing to note about the Kelvin timeline original movie... IDW published a "prequel" comic called Countdown that tied the STTNG series to the Kelvin movie. The story came from the script notes and background that they didn't have room for in the movie. It gives Old Spock some motivation for his part in it, and gives Nero some backstory and his relationship to Old Spock. It's definitely worth a read.
I could literally talk about Star Trek all day.
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Post by driver1980 on Apr 15, 2024 15:20:19 GMT -5
One thing to note about the Kelvin timeline original movie... IDW published a "prequel" comic called Countdown that tied the STTNG series to the Kelvin movie. The story came from the script notes and background that they didn't have room for in the movie. It gives Old Spock some motivation for his part in it, and gives Nero some backstory and his relationship to Old Spock. It's definitely worth a read. I could literally talk about Star Trek all day. I have the Eaglemoss reprint of that. I’ll dig it out tomorrow and share a pic. Thanks for the info on the 25% thing. |
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Post by chintzybeatnik on Apr 24, 2024 19:21:44 GMT -5
The DC Star Trek comics are some of my comfort comics.
IDW has done a good job but I’ll always go back to those long 80 issue TOS and TNG series’s over and over.
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