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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 24, 2019 14:33:59 GMT -5
Aquaman had a helmet in a story (Adventure #267), that was reprinted in Super-Team Family (issue #3). The gimmick was that Aquaman was chasing criminals on land, complete with a truck-towed water tank, containing marine life. Meanwhile, Green Arrow and Speedy are chasing after a criminal, the Wizard (not the Injustice Society guy), at sea, complete with spear guns, scuba gear and an Arrow-boat. Aquaman chases Shark Norton, while Green Arrow chases the Wizard. The criminals compare notes and each says they are switching arenas, to get away from their nemesis, only for the hero to follow. personally, I've always quite enjoyed the stories and thought they were clever fun. An old favorite of mine, too. Glad someone else has fond memories of that team-up/ swap!
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Post by dbutler69 on Jan 24, 2019 15:59:52 GMT -5
Aquaman had a helmet in a story (Adventure #267), that was reprinted in Super-Team Family (issue #3). The gimmick was that Aquaman was chasing criminals on land, complete with a truck-towed water tank, containing marine life. Meanwhile, Green Arrow and Speedy are chasing after a criminal, the Wizard (not the Injustice Society guy), at sea, complete with spear guns, scuba gear and an Arrow-boat. Aquaman chases Shark Norton, while Green Arrow chases the Wizard. The criminals compare notes and each says they are switching arenas, to get away from their nemesis, only for the hero to follow. personally, I've always quite enjoyed the stories and thought they were clever fun. Yes, that's the same issue what I was referring to. Unfortunately, I didn't share your favorable opinion of those Aquaman and Green Arrow stories.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 24, 2019 21:55:45 GMT -5
Well no story is going to please everyone. That Super-Team Family issue was a big favorite, of my childhood. There is a World's Finest reprint (#176) with Batman and Superman helping aliens, who turn out to be the same guy (with Supergirl and Batgirl along for the fun), with Cary Bates & Neal Adams; and, Flash has to deal with a transmogrified Hawkman (turned into a gorilla, by Grodd), in a new story, from Steve Skeates and Ric Estrada. Pretty good package, for 50 cents.
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Post by rberman on Jan 25, 2019 7:58:15 GMT -5
JLA #113 “The Creature in the Velvet Cage!” (October 1974)Creative Team: Len Wein writing, Dick Dillin penciling, Dick Giordano inking The Story: The JLA and JSA are wrapping up an unseen adventure against the Horned Owl Gang. An incident back at Sandman’s secret lair forces him to confess that his sidekick Sandy Hawkins did not really retire; rather, a laboratory accident transformed him into a rock-monster who has been imprisoned in Sandman’s lair “for all these many years.” The heroes split into squads (of course!) to search York City for this menace. In all fairness, this is the most reasonable squad rationale we’ve seen in a while. Each squad confronts Sandy (at a wedding, then a youth baseball game), and we eventually learn that he wasn’t really rampaging; he was just trying to fix a tectonic fault-line that threatened the city. Sandman also discovers that he’s been keeping Sandy needlessly sedated for years. What a crushing revelation! Continuity References: Wonder Woman-1 has regained her powers but not rejoined the JLA due to “a story revealed in detail in Wonder Woman’s own mag.” Reprints: JSA story “The Case of the Patriotic Crimes” from All-Star Comics #41 (1948). “The cavern of Deadly Spheres!” is JLA #16. My Two Cents: Wow, quite a plot twist! Sandman comes off pretty badly here; how often do we get a story in which a hero shows such bad judgment? It’s also another black mark for stories that begin “I was in the laboratory when suddenly…” The only one I can think of offhandedly that ends well from that is Barry Allen’s origin. Message: Don’t try to innovate, kids! You’re more likely to end up as Icarus than Daedalus. Which reminds me: I am going to pause in my 1970s JLA reviews for a while and start reviewing another Len Wein 1970s series about a lab experiment gone horribly wrong… The saga of the Swamp Thing! Coming soon to another thread near you. The battle against Sandy disrupts a garden wedding between civilians Giselle and Patrick, against the wishes of Giselle’s mother. What are the odds that Len Wein is writing real people into the story?
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 25, 2019 10:00:11 GMT -5
I guess the covers for the 100-pagers that were divided into panels sold, but I never thought they were effective... always looked jumbled, even chaotic, and the illustrations perfunctory at best. I wish DC had tried something similar to the design of the old 80-Page Giants, which even though divided into panels, always were clearer and easier to take in than most of those 100-pagers.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 25, 2019 12:27:46 GMT -5
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Post by rberman on Jan 25, 2019 12:31:26 GMT -5
You'll also notice that bondange and domination scenarios are heavily featured on covers, at this period and had been since Diana returned to being Wonder Woman (though it was pretty heavily featured during the Diana Prince run). There seemed to be a lot of that, in certain Dc comics, such as Lois Lane and even Adventure Comics reprinted the Villainy Inc story, which had more ropes and chains than a hardware store. It even got a cover spot. Somebody was either a fan or thought it would sell, regardless of content. I was struck how resolutely George Perez avoided such scenes during his multi-year run on Wonder Woman just after the original Crisis. Not 100% avoided, but it was far rarer than under other creators. It's on my list of series to review, but it may take a while.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 25, 2019 14:00:51 GMT -5
You'll also notice that bondange and domination scenarios are heavily featured on covers, at this period and had been since Diana returned to being Wonder Woman (though it was pretty heavily featured during the Diana Prince run). There seemed to be a lot of that, in certain Dc comics, such as Lois Lane and even Adventure Comics reprinted the Villainy Inc story, which had more ropes and chains than a hardware store. It even got a cover spot. Somebody was either a fan or thought it would sell, regardless of content. I was struck how resolutely George Perez avoided such scenes during his multi-year run on Wonder Woman just after the original Crisis. Not 100% avoided, but it was far rarer than under other creators. It's on my list of series to review, but it may take a while. Which was ironic, given some of the other material he would do... Not to mention, guest directing a superheroine fight fetish video.
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Post by rberman on Jan 25, 2019 14:02:30 GMT -5
I was struck how resolutely George Perez avoided such scenes during his multi-year run on Wonder Woman just after the original Crisis. Not 100% avoided, but it was far rarer than under other creators. It's on my list of series to review, but it may take a while. Which was ironic, given some of the other material he would do... Not to mention, guest directing a superheroine fight fetish video. Just wait until we get to the Bulleteer section of Seven Soldiers. You bailed too early!
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Post by dbutler69 on Jan 25, 2019 15:35:34 GMT -5
Well no story is going to please everyone. That Super-Team Family issue was a big favorite, of my childhood. There is a World's Finest reprint (#176) with Batman and Superman helping aliens, who turn out to be the same guy (with Supergirl and Batgirl along for the fun), with Cary Bates & Neal Adams; and, Flash has to deal with a transmogrified Hawkman (turned into a gorilla, by Grodd), in a new story, from Steve Skeates and Ric Estrada. Pretty good package, for 50 cents. True. I did like the Hawkman/Flash/Grodd story, anyway. That was a fun one.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 25, 2019 15:38:38 GMT -5
JLA #113 was one of my favorite issues of that era. I remember taking it on a school trip and reading it on the bus. As for the story, how in the world can Sandman abduct Sandy and no one asks about him? It's like those perverts that kidnap a girl and keep them in their basement for 10 years. Sounds like Sandman had to be arrested and charged.
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Post by rberman on Jan 25, 2019 15:41:52 GMT -5
JLA #113 was one of my favorite issues of that era. I remember taking it on a school trip and reading it on the bus. As for the story, how in the world can Sandman abduct Sandy and no one asks about him? It's like those perverts that kidnap a girl and keep them in their basement for 10 years. Sounds like Sandman had to be arrested and charged. Probably an orphan. They were a dime a dozen back then.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 25, 2019 15:44:09 GMT -5
Doesn't matter , It's still unlawful imprisonment. What did the other heroes do, Shrug their shoulders and go have a beer?
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Post by rberman on Jan 25, 2019 15:54:05 GMT -5
Doesn't matter , It's still unlawful imprisonment. What did the other heroes do, Shrug their shoulders and go have a beer? I got the impression they never even noticed he was missing, and never asked. No, that does not make real world sense, but teen sidekicks don't make real world sense in the first place.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 25, 2019 16:19:57 GMT -5
I loved that story but the narrative says he was gassed for years. Yikes !
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