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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 14:43:54 GMT -5
I don't remember any buzz on these series when they came out but I liked them:   |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 15:00:41 GMT -5
Paul Jenkins run on Incredible Hulk:  |
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Post by badwolf on Oct 20, 2017 16:58:50 GMT -5
Did that precede Bruce Jones' run?
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 20, 2017 17:14:08 GMT -5
While I wasn't shocked by the fact, I agree that Byrne's Omac mini is really good; and I agree with Badwolf about a lot of Byrne's later work. I've already mentioned Lost Generation, but there was also the flawed but still enjoyable X-men Hidden Years that came out at about the same time. I also really enjoyed the Star Trek minis that IDW published. My perspective was that his work was on the decline for a while, that It was a pleasant surprise to see a tale on the caliber of his FF and Superman work. |
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 20, 2017 17:32:23 GMT -5
I don't think it is reviled by anyone, but I rarely see it on people's favourite lists: the Batman run that introduced Jason Todd -the first one, pre-crisis. I loved the Newton-Alcala art, and the stories had a sense of going forward, of not denying the passage of time. Bruce Wayne was not a perennially thirty-something bachelor; he had a grown "son" in Dick, a serious love interest, and a new protégé in Jason. He was still at the top of his game, but you got the feeling that he was growing... growing older, but also wiser. Cue the reboot! Now we'll introduce Bat-god! I love that run! From about Detective #511 to around #570 and Batman #340 (or so) to about #400.
It's a bit long to read it every year, but I read it every three or four years.
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 20, 2017 17:34:24 GMT -5
I love the Mike Murdock issues of Daredevil. I know I'm not the only, but it sure seems like it sometimes.
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Post by hondobrode on Oct 20, 2017 17:36:38 GMT -5
Did that precede Bruce Jones' run? Yes Jones immediately followed Jenkins Others I've liked where as others didn't like, or like as much as I did  |
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 20, 2017 17:37:40 GMT -5
From mrp's many choices, I liked quite a few of them!
The Monster Hunters, the Shadow War of the Hawkman, Avengers 1959 and especially Sword of the Atom (all purchased brand new hot off the press!) are all pretty awesome.
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Post by String on Oct 20, 2017 18:30:40 GMT -5
From mrp's many choices, I liked quite a few of them! The Monster Hunters, the Shadow War of the Hawkman, Avengers 1959 and especially Sword of the Atom (all purchased brand new hot off the press!) are all pretty awesome. Shadow War of Hawkman remains on my to-read list although I didn't know about the Legend of Hawkman mini, that looks interesting. As mrp said, Sword of Atom was my first full exposure to the character too. While it may have upset long-time fans, it's the first image/incarnation of the character that always spring to my mind now. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 20, 2017 18:51:34 GMT -5
I don't think it is reviled by anyone, but I rarely see it on people's favourite lists: the Batman run that introduced Jason Todd -the first one, pre-crisis. I loved the Newton-Alcala art, and the stories had a sense of going forward, of not denying the passage of time. Bruce Wayne was not a perennially thirty-something bachelor; he had a grown "son" in Dick, a serious love interest, and a new protégé in Jason. He was still at the top of his game, but you got the feeling that he was growing... growing older, but also wiser. Cue the reboot! Now we'll introduce Bat-god! I love that run! From about Detective #511 to around #570 and Batman #340 (or so) to about #400.
It's a bit long to read it every year, but I read it every three or four years.
If there was anyone born to draw Batman, It was Gene Colan . |
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 20, 2017 18:53:50 GMT -5
There were three mini series that were reviled by many that I enjoyed:
1. Batman vs. The JSA
2. Secret Invasion
3. Identity Crisis
The last two , I couldn't wait between chapters.
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Post by chadwilliam on Oct 20, 2017 19:07:27 GMT -5
Max Allan Collins run on Batman. His two issue Tommy Carma storyline in Batman 402/403 is my favorite Batman tale from the same year which gave us both Batman 400 and Dark Knight Returns; his Norm Breyfogle penciled Penguin yarn from Batman Annual 11 is probably the best Oswald Cobblepot story since the Golden Age and is superior to the Alan Moore Clayface III story from the same issue; and there's a nice Dick Tracyish tone to his run that lends his stories a certain amount of fun which, in my opinion, more than makes up for its faults (Batman screws up a little too often, for example). That Collins could have been the first writer to capitalize on the success of Frank Miller's Year One by adopting a similar 'Batman as emotionally crippled Man-Child' and instead chose to adopt a more Dick Sprangish feel is something I can't help but respect. I mean, he had Batman and Robin fighting Two-Face on a giant roulette wheel in his second storyline.
He developed a new direction for Vicki Vale as a reporter who admired Bruce Wayne and didn't trust Batman which I still can't help but wish had played out; his reasoning that Batman would only take on another Robin if doing so would redirect him from the downward spiral his life was headed in seemed sensible; and there was a nice little subplot involving Jason Todd learning that Batman was attempting to conceal the fact that his father had been murdered by Two-Face. Collins was developing a nice little world here that, in my estimation, has aged a lot better than most of what's followed in the decades since.
I'd also like to see his Batman newspaper strip reprinted one of these days.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Oct 20, 2017 19:09:55 GMT -5
Max Allan Collins run on Batman. His two issue Tommy Carma storyline in Batman 402/403 is my favorite Batman tale from the same year which gave us both Batman 400 and Dark Knight Returns; his Norm Breyfogle penciled Penguin yarn from Batman Annual 11 is probably the best Oswald Cobblepot story since the Golden Age and is superior to the Alan Moore Clayface III story from the same issue; and there's a nice Dick Tracyish tone to his run that lends his stories a certain amount of fun which, in my opinion, more than makes up for its faults (Batman screws up a little too often, for example). That Collins could have been the first writer to capitalize on the success of Frank Miller's Year One by adopting a similar 'Batman as emotionally crippled Man-Child' and instead chose to adopt a more Dick Sprangish feel is something I can't help but respect. I mean, he had Batman and Robin fighting Two-Face on a giant roulette wheel in his second storyline. He developed a new direction for Vicki Vale as a reporter who admired Bruce Wayne and didn't trust Batman which I still can't help but wish had played out; his reasoning that Batman would only take on another Robin if doing so would redirect him from the downward spiral his life was headed in seemed sensible; and there was a nice little subplot involving Jason Todd learning that Batman was attempting to conceal the fact that his father had been murdered by Two-Face. Collins was developing a nice little world here that, in my estimation, has aged a lot better than most of what's followed in the decades since. I'd also like to see his Batman newspaper strip reprinted one of these days. Collins along with Starlin almost made me stop buying Batman comics. In retrospect I probably should have earlier. Just awful comics. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 20, 2017 19:13:52 GMT -5
Max Allan Collins run on Batman. His two issue Tommy Carma storyline in Batman 402/403 is my favorite Batman tale from the same year which gave us both Batman 400 and Dark Knight Returns; his Norm Breyfogle penciled Penguin yarn from Batman Annual 11 is probably the best Oswald Cobblepot story since the Golden Age and is superior to the Alan Moore Clayface III story from the same issue; and there's a nice Dick Tracyish tone to his run that lends his stories a certain amount of fun which, in my opinion, more than makes up for its faults (Batman screws up a little too often, for example). That Collins could have been the first writer to capitalize on the success of Frank Miller's Year One by adopting a similar 'Batman as emotionally crippled Man-Child' and instead chose to adopt a more Dick Sprangish feel is something I can't help but respect. I mean, he had Batman and Robin fighting Two-Face on a giant roulette wheel in his second storyline. He developed a new direction for Vicki Vale as a reporter who admired Bruce Wayne and didn't trust Batman which I still can't help but wish had played out; his reasoning that Batman would only take on another Robin if doing so would redirect him from the downward spiral his life was headed in seemed sensible; and there was a nice little subplot involving Jason Todd learning that Batman was attempting to conceal the fact that his father had been murdered by Two-Face. Collins was developing a nice little world here that, in my estimation, has aged a lot better than most of what's followed in the decades since. I'd also like to see his Batman newspaper strip reprinted one of these days. Collins along with Starlin almost made me stop buying Batman comics. In retrospect I probably should have earlier. Just awful comics. How could you not like this ?  |
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Post by chadwilliam on Oct 20, 2017 19:44:23 GMT -5
Collins along with Starlin almost made me stop buying Batman comics. In retrospect I probably should have earlier. Just awful comics. Next you'll be telling us you don't like Superman. |
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