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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 22:54:53 GMT -5
I want to try ROM. I've heard nothing but praises for it. But I hesitate because of Mantlo. He ruined my Alpha Flight. And I am not sure I have enough forgiveness in my heart to move onto something else he's written. Seriously, my soul sobs at least once a day over that. It's devilish of me, but perhaps this may entice you to give it a whirl. Mantlo has many shortcomings, but his treatment of the Avenging Son is not one of them: Okay, Phil. I am going to give it a-go. For Namor. ♡
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 23:01:08 GMT -5
Yesterday I was going through the Craigslist ads and usually people have ridiculous asking prices for junk comics. I found two ads that seemed decent though. One was for Archies, price was listed, I bought them. The other was a random collection, no price listed, but it wasn't the typical 90's junk you usually find in Craigslist ads. I sent an inquiry on 11 issues of Chamber Of Chills from Marvel. I was expecting him to be asking anywhere between $11 and $60.
Instead I got three emails back to back. The first one saying he wanted $450. The second, a long rant about how he knows what his comics are worth and these are mint condition and a shop already offered him $450 anyway. And then a third with a link to issue #1 for sale on Newkadia for $65, justifying his $450 price tag.
I didn't even reply.
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Post by marvelmaniac on Nov 25, 2015 6:48:55 GMT -5
I usually like simple stories(early Silver) that start and end in one issue, however... ROM has always been one of mt favorite all time storylines from beginning to end. When I started getting back into comics (1979) I started reading ROM off the newsstand and could not wait for the following month's issue to come out. When I was a kid collecting (mid 60's) crossovers were among my favorites (they were not an every month occurrence back then) so the fact that almost every character in the Marvel Universe appeared was one of the things I loved about the story and the fact that the story was self contained in the ROM title (except for Power Man/Iron Fist 73) and did not crossover into every other title that you had to buy to keep up. I have two complete runs of ROM. On another note; Issue 31 was the 2nd appearance of Rouge.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 7:11:15 GMT -5
I want to try ROM. I've heard nothing but praises for it. But I hesitate because of Mantlo. He ruined my Alpha Flight. And I am not sure I have enough forgiveness in my heart to move onto something else he's written. Seriously, my soul sobs at least once a day over that. It's devilish of me, but perhaps this may entice you to give it a whirl. Mantlo has many shortcomings, but his treatment of the Avenging Son is not one of them Also, about Mantlo's treatment of Namor: He wrote a pretty funny Namor in Alpha Flight. It was one of the few joys of his AF run. Love sick Namor: look at that sad face. D'aww. "Stripling". Namor has given me many insults to use since I've read him.
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Post by The Captain on Nov 25, 2015 12:35:24 GMT -5
I saw a non-CGC'ed copy of Abnett & Lanning's Guardians of the Galaxy #1 in a LCS recently for $100. Well a year ago the local shop was selling copies for $85 a pop as soon as they came in raw in NM, he got 4 copies over the span of 2 months in and sold all 4 for that price in under a day each on display to 4 different customers, so asking $100 for it doesn't surprise me in the least. -M I stand corrected then. I've seen them on eBay recently for $35-$40 ungraded with a 9.8 slabbed copy going for $200, IIRC.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Nov 25, 2015 16:31:37 GMT -5
And also we buy stuff that was in movies regardless of quality. Bah! Bah! (The Abnett/Lanning series was actually pretty great, though. I am glad it's getting more exposure.) People buy comics because the next issue continues the numbering sequence regardless of quality too, or because a certain character is in it regardless of quality, or...so the movies have little to do with people buying bad comics for stupid reasons. Right. I am bemoaning the switch to buying books featuring a certain character from buying books featuring a specific artist. The movies just temporarily intensified this stupid trend,
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 16:40:28 GMT -5
People buy comics because the next issue continues the numbering sequence regardless of quality too, or because a certain character is in it regardless of quality, or...so the movies have little to do with people buying bad comics for stupid reasons. Right. I am bemoaning the switch to buying books featuring a certain character from buying books featuring a specific artist. The movies just temporarily intensified this stupid trend, But wanting specific characters is not a new trend, heck it's the standard of collecting. Lots of early highly collected comics didn't even have credit boxes and many fans didn't know who was producing them, only who was in them. The superstar creator thing was a much more recent development in collecting back issues than the superstar character being the focus. If anything, the movies have brought about a return to form in collecting. -M
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Nov 25, 2015 16:50:15 GMT -5
Well no, not really. Earliy comics tended to focus on genre more than individual characters and the first organized adult collectors mostly focused on ECs. And none of 'em were huge fans of the Old Witch.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Nov 25, 2015 17:27:37 GMT -5
It's devilish of me, but perhaps this may entice you to give it a whirl. Mantlo has many shortcomings, but his treatment of the Avenging Son is not one of them Also, about Mantlo's treatment of Namor: He wrote a pretty funny Namor in Alpha Flight. It was one of the few joys of his AF run. Love sick Namor: look at that sad face. D'aww. "Stripling". Namor has given me many insults to use since I've read him. Must admit those are some pretty good panels, good and dynamic anatomy.
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Post by Crimebuster on Nov 25, 2015 17:49:50 GMT -5
Rom is great. I also hated Mantlo's Alpha Flight run, but Rom is one of my favorite titles. #17 is kind of a turning point in the series for me. The first #16 issues are solild, setting up the big storyline, but they are also really dense. With #17, it seemed to loosen up a bit, and started turning the book into what I think of as Rom Team-Up, with some guest star or another just about every arc for the rest of the series.
Rom is basically one long story. #1-16 is Act I, #17-50 is Act II, #51-66 is Act III, and #67-75 is the epilogue. It's top notch.
Also, Hybrid, who debuts in #17, is a fantastically horrifying villain. Just honestly disturbing, and more disturbing in each subsequent appearance.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 17:54:49 GMT -5
There are some dealers who are jackasses in human form. They attach a large premium to a normal comic in a bag and board, claiming if it was professionally graded, it would get a 9.6, and therefore attach their own 'inflated' premium.
You give me that sales pitch and an inflated price, and I will dismiss you as a moron.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Nov 25, 2015 18:00:18 GMT -5
There are some dealers who are jackasses in human form. They attach a large premium to a normal comic in a bag and board, claiming if it was professionally graded, it would get a 9.6, and therefore attach their own 'inflated' premium. You give me that sales pitch and an inflated price, and I will dismiss you as a moron. Or at least someone who takes you for one, which is even worse if you happen to notice the ploy.
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 25, 2015 19:19:12 GMT -5
I recognize supply and demand but there has to be an actual demand, not an artificial pumping up of a issue. I need Eternal Warrior #50 to complete my collection but the cheapest I saw it for was 13.83. The only selling point for that book is that it's the only final issue for a Valiant comic.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 19:29:54 GMT -5
I recognize supply and demand but there has to be an actual demand, not an artificial pumping up of a issue. I see this come into play a lot for variant covers, especially those in the larger ratios like 1:100 or 1:200 I remember seeing some Quesada variants immediately listed at $69.95, simply because dealers had to order 100 regular copies to get 1 of those variant covers. If it's not really a key book, nobody cares and the price can plunge. I got one for five bucks once, maybe I was in the right place at the right time but I did like the artwork.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Nov 25, 2015 19:44:18 GMT -5
I recognize supply and demand but there has to be an actual demand, not an artificial pumping up of a issue. I need Eternal Warrior #50 to complete my collection but the cheapest I saw it for was 13.83. The only selling point for that book is that it's the only final issue for a Valiant comic. I wonder if this isn't a case of some demand and supply being very, very low. Final issues of series often go for more not because there's demand for them but because the series is about to be cancelled and the print runs were minuscule. I've been buying Icon (the Milestone series) and the last issue generally goes for 'bout ten times what # 1 does.
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