You've jumped a bit ahead of me. I'm trying to watch both Flash and Arrow. Up to #17.

Had to finish Jessica Jones before continuing, and am considering Man in the High Castle.

Hey, watching season 2!

Episode 1: Atom Smasher came over from Earth 2 in episode 1. He was the Golden Age Atom's son, right? I'm really poorly read in Infinity Inc./Young All-Stars - but I assume that he debuted on the "Real" Pre-Crisis Earth 2.

Poor Al Rothstien is pretty much a straight-up villain here - I think he killed some guy? Which is dissapointing.

Episode 2: Sand-Demon Is that supposed to be Sandy the Golden Boy? He was all trapped in a sand creature body in the '70s JLA, and he definitely comes from Earth 2. Sand Demon's wasn't named Sandy, though....

Episode 3: Captain Cold and Golden Glider I really like Captain Cold on this show. That is all.

Episode 4: Some dude who gets fire powers while failing to merge with Martin Stein to become Firestorm I don't think he even had a code-name. Certainly didn't look familiar at all.

Episode 5: Dr. Light (Kimiyo) Also came from Earth two, and (I assume) secretly Linda Park? Annoying. Dr. Light 1 was at least involved in a JLA Crossover! Dr. Light 2 was never a villain, certainly not a petty thief - that is so far beneath her! - and wasn't from Earth-2. Whatever happened to poor Kimiyo post 1990? Probably killed off in some crappy crossover. I DO like that the Flash show is playing around with the idea of alternate universe duplicates, though.

Episode 6: Zoom Agh, I get post-Crisis Zoom and the Reverse Flash's backstories confused. I'm pretty sure that Jay Garrick actually fought an evil speedster once or twice back in the Golden Age, so they could have used an actual earth two character. Little annoyed that "evil Flash" seems to be the big bad again.

Just started episode 8, which is a Green Arrow crossover.

* Freaking Firestorm villains! I... I can name Killer Frost but that's it. I guess I'm glad that the Sand Guy wasn't Sandy. (If only because I would be mad they brought on, and killed off, Sandy without showing us a live action Wesley Dodds!)

* What was the name of the Firestorm bad guy in episode 4? I would google but I am 1.7 seasons behind and would rather avoid spoilers.

* I did end up reluctantly digging what they did with Doctor Light. Hopefully Linda Park as superhero will stick around.

* Weren't there two Reverse Flash types running (HA!) around for a while? Maybe during the Geoff Johns run - Which I thought was only occasionally good enough to be called "Godawful" so it's not like I've re-read it or remember much.

* For all my complaints, I'm really glad to see Earth-2 and I like how the show is approaching it. One of the reasons the Crisis on the Infinite Earths bugged me was that the Earth 2 concept (I felt) had a lot of unrealized potential.

What does it mean psychologically/sociologically/spiritually to know that there is another *You* running around somewhere? Except for Alan Brennert's stuff DC didn't touch on those aspects of multiple worlds very often so I love seeing the Flash tackle that a little bit.

* Jay Garrick is too young, though. Maybe they don't want too many middle-aged-to-old dudes running around your show on the teenybopper network, but Flash-as-mentor would have worked better with a middle aged Jay. It might have been a little icky to pair him off with Caitlin (who is... not a meta-human? Huh.) and the show really, really wants to pair all the character off right now!

* Speaking of which... Patty Spivot sound really familiar, but I don't remember what comic she was in.

* Like I really dig that there is one actor playing two "Harrison Wells'" as completely different people. Like you can see how the nature is the same but the nurture is different?

* Did... did they just make Vibe kind of cool? Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. I would never have believed that in a million years.

* I just started Episode 8 but I'm wondering if the knife throwing guy isn't Vandal Savage? Somehow? They really should have hired a dude who looks more like a Caveman. I think of Vandal Savage as a Flash Villain - the first time I ran into him was a '70s Barry Allen/Jay Garrick team-up - but he was originally a Green Lantern enemy I believe. Are they tring to tie him into Hawkman? Hawkman actually has a pretty good rogues gallery - Gentleman Ghost, Byth, Shadow Thief, Matter Master, Golden Eagle... They could use one of them.

* I gave up on Arrow after, like, season 1 episode 5. He has a female Speedy? I think there was a girl Speedy in the comics... '00s Green Arrow is another one of those comics I read a fair amount of but didn't like much and don't remember.

Sadly, no Arrowette. Cissy King Jones from Peter David's Young Justice is one of my three or four favorite post Crisis superhero interpretations.

* I'm fine with race swapping, but it seems like they are trying to make Iris out to be not-the-worst-person-who-has-ever-lived after doing a good job capturing her abject terribleness last season. This is an insulting violation of continuity, and it must not stand!

* So... are we gonna have the JSA or what? C'mon! Please?

Well, I'm probably not getting to that for a while.   Untitled   

(But I will at some point!)

Oh yeah forgot one..

Who's Damien Dahrk?  Does he have a comics pedigree at all?  I only saw a little bit of him but thought he was one of the cooler villains...  Gahd, I might have to watch Arrow, although the paternity drama sub-plot is absolutely everything I don't want from superheroes.  

Also:  Gorilla City!  I thought it was and then the DVD special features actually said Gorilla City!  So great.  

Also -  Predicting that Zoom (you don't see his face) is the Earth Two version of one of the main cast.. .Possibly Barry's father?  I'm rooting for Evil Earth-Two Iris, but that's probably not happening.  

Earth Two! They are on Earth Two! Soooooo Goooooood! Not to be hyperbolic, but Season 2 episode 13 was the best thing I have ever seen on TV. Everything I ever wanted from an Earth-Two - and what I rarely got from the comics.

I would like some more actual earth two characters, but you can't have everything. I keep hoping they're teasing Hourman with all Jay Garrick doing drugs all the time, but I'm probably clutching at straws.

Villains:

The Turtle! Done poorly and turned into a boring psycho-killer type but still.. . The Turtle! Cool.

Earth Two Killer Frost!

Tar Pit I vaguely remember as a Nu-Flash villain, from circa 2003 or so.

Deathstorm was the evil zombie Firestorm from the Blackest Night crossover. That was about the best of the Geoff Johns "my-biggest-influence-isFriday the 13 part 9" period. Wonder if he comes back from the dead.

Geomancer I'm guessing another damn Firestorm villain. He had Geo Force of the Outsiders style glasses, but the show is comics accurate enough that I am sure they would not introduce Geo-Force without mentioning Markovia.

Reverb Might be original to the show?

Geomancer is actually a JSA villian - he was a member of Johnny Sorrow's Injustice League.

as to Reverb. . nope, he really is from the comics, where he's "Vibe's" Brother.  He suddenly appeared after Vibe was killed off in JLA with similar powers.   He was a member of the "anti-JLA" team that was led by Booster Gold (heck if I can remember that team name tho. . . .I know it had Gypsy as a member, and the "gimmick" was that they were corporate sponsored and got paid to save people).