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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 9:28:02 GMT -5
I am soooo glad I do not take myself so seriously.
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Post by Ozymandias on Nov 5, 2015 9:28:37 GMT -5
Everything and anything associated with life, humanity, art, nature, love, music, loyalty, bravery, hate, cooking*, lust, happiness, sadness, and a million other things are messy inexact things that can't be reduced to numbers and mathematics. If you try, they lose their magic, their soul.
It's my believe they can be, although I don't think humans will ever be able to do that, not while tied up by their current biological substrate. |
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Post by DE Sinclair on Nov 5, 2015 10:38:16 GMT -5
Everything and anything associated with life, humanity, art, nature, love, music, loyalty, bravery, hate, cooking*, lust, happiness, sadness, and a million other things are messy inexact things that can't be reduced to numbers and mathematics. If you try, they lose their magic, their soul.
It's my believe they can be, although I don't think humans will ever be able to do that, not while tied up by their current biological substrate. That makes me sad. And it's certainly not a world I want to live in. |
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Post by the4thpip on Nov 5, 2015 18:04:23 GMT -5
I am too emotional to critique anything properly because there are things drawn that I hate simply because it goes with a horrible portion of a story. The later parts of Alpha Flight volume one is a great example. And when I can get to a computer I will post some. Maybe. How about Fabio-hair Wild Child in a thong?   Far from the worst panel Pat Broderick has ever drawn, but some of the worst aesthetic choices of the 90s. And the guy in the back? His name was Wyre. Why a Y you ask? Y not? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 18:18:11 GMT -5
I am too emotional to critique anything properly because there are things drawn that I hate simply because it goes with a horrible portion of a story. The later parts of Alpha Flight volume one is a great example. And when I can get to a computer I will post some. Maybe. How about Fabio-hair Wild Child in a thong? Far from the worst panel Pat Broderick has ever drawn, but some of the worst aesthetic choices of the 90s. And the guy in the back? His name was Wyre. Why a Y you ask? Y not? ^^^ That. That right there is why I just couldn't keep with Alpha Flight. It should have stopped LONG BEFORE it did.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 18:33:26 GMT -5
We could probably do a whole thread just on awkward breasts in comic book panels. In this case, though, could just be some kind of sculpted sports bra. I'm more curious what the hell is going on with her leg. I'm not brave enough to start a thread about oddly shaped breasts. I hope it never gets started, to be honest.  Aww...in an era of tits and ass comics, Cap get my vote for best chest of all. The bad girls just can't keep up.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 18:45:19 GMT -5
BAHAHAHAHA.
That is soooo gross.
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Post by Phil Maurice on Nov 5, 2015 19:33:43 GMT -5
Ha! I love the little black rectangle covering his "Simon and Kirbies."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 19:41:50 GMT -5
Ha! I love the little black rectangle covering his "Simon and Kirbies." Street names for male genitalia never cease to make me laugh. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 5, 2015 19:43:12 GMT -5
I'm not brave enough to start a thread about oddly shaped breasts. I hope it never gets started, to be honest. Aww...in an era of tits and ass comics, Cap get my vote for best chest of all. The bad girls just can't keep up. Ya know, maybe Liefeld is some kind of genius for drawing that picture. It is immortalized. Comic fans will always come back to it. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 5, 2015 21:04:26 GMT -5
Making it a number doesn't make it data, any more than if you call it 'pink', 'pineapple', and 'elephant'. The numbers have to mean something. Is each number twice as good as the last? Are you grading on 10 criteria, and telling us how many are met? Are you doing a normal distribution centered around 5? Is a 6 twice as good as a 3? That's why people are more interested in numbers like that.. they don't mean anything without a detailed explanation. People understand 'great', 'good', 'OK', etc. much better. Then there's the fact that you're a bit of an iconoclast, and don't rate comics that are pretty generally beloved very highly. that befuddles people even more. Never mind that I see no 10s on your scale.. the whole thing makes sense to you, I'm sure, but for us to appreciate it, we need more info  Funny you should mention colors, as something that can't be converted to data, because you're seeing a bunch of them right now, on your screen. As for your other questions, you hit jackpot with the normal distribution, congratulations, you're the first one to see trough that, without me saying it first. I knew there was something wrong with me, I find 'great', 'good', 'OK', etc. to be kind of fuzzy. Always liked numbers better. You hit the nail again, at some point, I defined my Spider-Man forum as "iconoclast". The thing with the majorities opinion is… I don't regard it as very valuable. The absence of 10's, or anything close, is directly related to the way data aligns itself, in a normal distribution. Ahh.. see telling us it's a normal distribution is much more useful that 'I put them into piles and give them a number'. So is 5 average? What Standard Deviation are you aiming for? .5? 1? I'm thinking less than one, since you don't give anything much higher than a 7 despite (I assume, given the time and trouble you spent on it) it being you favorite series. |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Nov 5, 2015 21:11:40 GMT -5
That Alpha Flight one I wouldn't call the 'worst ever' I personally find it ugly, but it's not 'wrong' in the same why Spidey Vs. Lady Stilt Man or giant chest Cap is. Incidently, 'Wyre' was probably because 'Wire' was already taken... Doom 2099's VR specialist/side kick. Talk about defining bad 90s tropes...  |
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Post by Paste Pot Paul on Nov 6, 2015 0:37:34 GMT -5
  So I'll see your Alpha Flight and raise you 2 pages from Legionnaires #16 from '94. This has the lot, the redneck trifecta of hair, boobs, n a thong. Some of the most outstanding hair designs I've seen, and gives me a reason to love every Liefield book Ive ever read. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 6, 2015 0:51:18 GMT -5
So I'll see your Alpha Flight and raise you 2 pages from Legionnaires #16 from '94. This has the lot, the redneck trifecta of hair, boobs, n a thong. Some of the most outstanding hair designs I've seen, and gives me a reason to love every Liefield book Ive ever read. It's the faces that are the real killer. What the hell is going on with Dream Girl in the second panel of that second page? |
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Post by the4thpip on Nov 6, 2015 1:55:26 GMT -5
So I'll see your Alpha Flight and raise you 2 pages from Legionnaires #16 from '94. This has the lot, the redneck trifecta of hair, boobs, n a thong. Some of the most outstanding hair designs I've seen, and gives me a reason to love every Liefield book Ive ever read. It's the faces that are the real killer. What the hell is going on with Dream Girl in the second panel of that second page? They all look utterly drunk on Silver Ale. |
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