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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 19:27:23 GMT -5
A friend of mine has asked me if I know about an old sci-fi strip.
I couldn't answer her question, but this is what she remembers:
Regarding the SF comic strip, it was actually in a book - collected from some comic I assume - and apart from the style, all I can recall is that Mira Ceti (the variable star) was involved. Plus I think it British rather than from the US, and probably in black and white.#
Has me baffled? I think she grew up mainly in the 60s and read comics then. Anyone?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 20:08:04 GMT -5
A friend of mine has asked me if I know about an old sci-fi strip. I couldn't answer her question, but this is what she remembers: Regarding the SF comic strip, it was actually in a book - collected from some comic I assume - and apart from the style, all I can recall is that Mira Ceti (the variable star) was involved. Plus I think it British rather than from the US, and probably in black and white.# Has me baffled? I think she grew up mainly in the 60s and read comics then. Anyone? I have a suspicion she's remembering what we call here in America: British Story Papers
(they were never sold here that I know of, but used to occasionally come across them in used bookstores when I was younger).
maybe something along the lines of "the Wizard". . tho there were many different ones produced (when googling them, the Wizard looks like it ran thru 1970. . to the time would fit).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 20:32:01 GMT -5
Thank you! I'll pass that on to her and see if it rings any further bells.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 18, 2019 11:05:17 GMT -5
Can anyone explain co writers or writing duos on titles? There have been comics that have credited 2 writers, does that mean the two people come up with the ploy or one writes the plot and the other does the dialogue? Do they split the pay or both get payed as full writers?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 14:01:50 GMT -5
Can anyone explain co writers or writing duos on titles? There have been comics that have credited 2 writers, does that mean the two people come up with the ploy or one writes the plot and the other does the dialogue? Do they split the pay or both get payed as full writers? Each collaboration will be unique to the creators involved. Sometimes one is plotter and the other scripter, but that is usually credited that way. Other times they work out the plot together and one or the other may handle scripting. Sometimes they will co-plot, one will do a first drft of a script, then the other will do a second based on the first, etc. etc. As for pay, again that is likely up to the parties involved. Each situation will be unique. -M
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 18, 2019 14:08:34 GMT -5
In some case, pages would be split between them and the other would pick up where the first left off. Others collaborated differently. it's the same in the prose world, as some duos trade chapters and others do different drafts. In some cases, on writer is more dominant than the other. Guys like James Patterson have the co-writer do the heavy lifting of early drafts, sometimes from his plot, sometimes their own, and he does the later drafts, turning it more into his voice. Those guys are more hired guns than collaborators.
When Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman teamed on Good Omens, they were supposed to trade parts; but, due to Gaiman's workload with Sandman, Pratchett ended up writing about 2/3 of the novel. it definitely reads more his style than Gaiman's.
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Post by beccabear67 on Feb 18, 2019 16:32:54 GMT -5
I think in the '70s (maybe '80s too) it would happen at Marvel where a plot was typed up/handed in and approved for the artist to work from, and then the scripting (dialogue, captions) was another later stage, so a different writer might be finishing it if the other was indisposed in some way or just plain MIA/quit. There could be plots for several issues that had yet to be fully scripted. The other kind that went on was the artist being credited as co-author, but I don't think that's what is being asked about. I don't know how Marvel broke up the pay between two actual writers.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Feb 18, 2019 17:17:54 GMT -5
I think I read somewhere that when Mark Gruenwald and Ralph Macchio were co-writing Marvel Two-In-One, they scripted pages alternately. When Mike Baron and Mike Grell co-wrote Green Arrow, the Butcher and the Question in the Brave and the Bold v2 they may have scripted alternate issues. Pat Mills and Johh Wagner were credited as co-writers on Doctor Who Weekly, but they actually wrote alternate arcs. Later, Wagner and Alan Grant were co-writers on Batman in Detective Comics, but Grant says he was the sole writer after the first few issues, but kept Wagner's name in the credits becasuse they were worried about breaking their contract with DC.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 18, 2019 18:40:32 GMT -5
I was referring to a book where both names are featured as writer like the Legion Of Superheroes had Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning as in the 90's- 2000's. Couldn't one of them write he book or does it imply that they both didn't have enough ideas to fill a book on a monthly basis?
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Post by rberman on Feb 18, 2019 18:44:49 GMT -5
I was referring to a book where both names are featured as writer like the Legion Of Superheroes had Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning as in the 90's- 2000's. Couldn't one of them write he book or does it imply that they both didn't have enough ideas to fill a book on a monthly basis? Some people just like teamwork I guess. Mishkin and Cohn team-wrote 80s DC fantasy stories like Amethyst and Blue Devil.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 23:22:13 GMT -5
I was referring to a book where both names are featured as writer like the Legion Of Superheroes had Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning as in the 90's- 2000's. Couldn't one of them write he book or does it imply that they both didn't have enough ideas to fill a book on a monthly basis? I think our own MDG might have some insight in this, as he has mentioned having a writing partner for story he did for DC. But some people like to collaborate. Abnett and Lanning collaborated on a lot of things, not just Legion, until they had creative differences and split up. Giffen and DeMateis worked as a team on a lot of stuff too. Kurt Busiek co-wrote various projects with Len Wein (Conan Book of Toth), Roger Stern (Avengers Forever), and Fabian Nicenza (a couple of Avengers related projects) and has said he wanted someone to bounce ideas off and give him a different perspective on those projects and wanted those projects to have a slightly different voice than his typical stuff. Roy Thomas partnered with his spouse Dann Thomas for a large chunk of his 80s output. Again, it's going to be different for each collaboration or each project. -M
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Post by MDG on Feb 19, 2019 17:47:51 GMT -5
I think our own MDG might have some insight in this, as he has mentioned having a writing partner for story he did for DC. ... The stories that we did full-script--and these were usually 8-pagers--we'd talk through the story, then divide it into pages. Then we'd take alternate pages (i.e., I'd take 1,3,5,7 and Jeff would take 2,4,6,8) and draft them out. We'd exchange them and revise, then get together to polish.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 19, 2019 18:08:51 GMT -5
Thanks for the answer, MDG . I was hoping to draw you out with this question. When you say Draft, do you mean dialogue?
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Post by MDG on Feb 19, 2019 18:14:26 GMT -5
Thanks for the answer, MDG . I was hoping to draw you out with this question. When you say Draft, do you mean dialogue? Yes--it would include what happens in each panel + any dialogue or narration. During revision, I'd try to cut as many words as possible.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Feb 20, 2019 1:52:29 GMT -5
I was referring to a book where both names are featured as writer like the Legion Of Superheroes had Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning as in the 90's- 2000's. Couldn't one of them write he book or does it imply that they both didn't have enough ideas to fill a book on a monthly basis? I think our own MDG might have some insight in this, as he has mentioned having a writing partner for story he did for DC. But some people kike to collaborate. Abnett and Lanning collaborated on a lot of things, not just Legion, until they had creative differences and split up. Giffen and DeMateis worked as a team on a lot of stuff too. Kurt Busiek co-wrote various projects with Len Wein (Conan Book of Toth), Roger Stern (Avengers Forever), and Fabian Nicenza (a couple of Avengers related projects) and has said he wanted someone to bounce ideas off and give him a different perspective on those projects and wanted those projects to have a slightly different voice than his typical stuff. Roy Thomas partnered with his spouse Dann Thomas for a large chunk of his 80s output. Again, it's going to be different for each collaboration or each project. -M Ostrander and Yale produced some of the best writing in the superhero genre, period. It definitely can work!
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