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Post by Hoosier X on May 29, 2014 20:19:33 GMT -5
After I read Destiny's Hand, I read JLA #82 and #83, and it ends with a cliffhanger where there are two Guy Gardners. I don't have the next issue (or any other JLA issue after that, except for some Justice League International and Justice League Classified with the Detroit League). So does anybody know what happened? Why are there two Guy Gardners? One seems like plenty!
The storyline is called "The Trouble with Guys," I think.
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Post by Action Ace on May 29, 2014 21:03:01 GMT -5
After I read Destiny's Hand, I read JLA #82 and #83, and it ends with a cliffhanger where there are two Guy Gardners. I don't have the next issue (or any other JLA issue after that, except for some Justice League International and Justice League Classified with the Detroit League). So does anybody know what happened? Why are there two Guy Gardners? One seems like plenty! The storyline is called "The Trouble with Guys," I think. Clone This was the time of Emerald Twilight so Guy lost the yellow ring and became Guy Gardner: Warrior.
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Post by Hoosier X on May 29, 2014 22:21:05 GMT -5
Thanks for the info, Action Ace.
I have no idea why I have JLA #82 and #83. I have no memory at all of ever reading those two issues.
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Post by Hoosier X on May 29, 2014 22:22:21 GMT -5
Here I quote from dc.wikia.com: One of the things I liked about the 2009 Power Girl series was the return of PG's cat. Yay!
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Post by Hoosier X on Jun 1, 2014 16:54:31 GMT -5
I read the rest of the stories, JLA #103 to #106, in Showcase Presents: JLA, Volume 5, and Len Wein did a pretty good job working within the restrictions of the JLA format and coming up with some fun stories. He made good use of some guest stars, he added two new members and he brought back some JLA villains instead of relying on the weird ecological or philosophical threat of the month.
The Dick Dillin art continues to be great. But it's not the only selling point anymore.
(These stories are from issues dated December 1972 to July/August 1973.)
Justice League of America #103 is especially fun. Felix Faust is the villain, using his powers to make a gateway for demons to come to Earth and take over the bodies of humans, and the only thing standing in his way is the JLA! And the Phantom Stranger! And Len Wein, Glynis Wein, Gerry Conway and Steve Englehart, who are all traveling to meet Tom Fagan in Rutland, Vermont, for the annual Halloween Parade! (Working this real event into stories was a 'thing' at both Marvel and DC at the beginning of the Bronze Age.)
Justice League of America #104 is another fun one as Hector Hammond somehow revives an old JLA villain called the Shaggy Man and takes control of him and makes him attack the JLA. (I think I've heard of the Shaggy Man but this is the first time I've ever seen him in a comic book.) He plays King Kong and climbs a building carrying the Black Canary (who else?) and she's rescued by Green Lantern. And Green Arrow calls him "Brush-Face." Oh, Oliver. What a rascal.
The Elongated Man and the Red Tornado both become members in a two-parter in Justice League of America #105 and #106. It's a bit convoluted, involving some plan by T.O. Morrow to sneak the Red Tornado into the League and then kill them all by sabotaging the Tornado's signal device. It's a pretty dopey plan, but what do you expect from a guy named T.O. Morrow? But it has some fun scenes. Sue and Ralph are sightseeing at an art museum. (I just realized, the Elongated Man's series in Detective had been canceled a year ago or so. Did they put him in JLA just because he didn't have a regular series anymore?) Weird globby humanoids attack and steal the frames!
When Ralph calls the JLA and they divide into groups, Black Canary calls dibs on Superman.
Superman, why don't you and I make a quick trip to Motor City?
I would guess that she needs a break from Oliver!
Weird stuff happens, but it turns out that the Red Tornado (who didn't really die in #102) has been following them and helping them surreptitiously.
In the second part, there's an interesting interlude where the Red Tornado tries to live among humans, but he runs into difficulties because he has no ID and his only job experience is "free-lance law officer." Bu he meets a nice lady who buys him dinner and pays the rent for the first week at a small apartment. Then she gets him a job as a lab assistant.
T.O. Morrow puts his plan into operation and gets defeated in a humiliating way because his name is T.O. Morrow.
I wouldn't compare it to the average Avengers story of the same era, but it's a heck of a lot better than it was before Wein.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 9:49:04 GMT -5
I've only read the fourth Showcase (#61-83), but the stories were remarkable in their unremarkableness. In fact, it's only been a year (if that) since I read them and of the 21 issues all I remember is something in one of the Red Tornado issues being really similar to a major plot point on Fringe. Plus there was no Martian Manhunter!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 10:49:53 GMT -5
Dr. Light was on Titans Go! a few days ago. It was very creepy seeing him posing with Starfire and Raven with his arms around them.
(By the way, I like the Titan Go! version of Starfire better than any version I've ever seen in the comics.)
Totally agree on Starfire. That show is a absolute hoot.
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Post by zilch on Nov 16, 2014 22:56:30 GMT -5
I remember reading a coverless JLA #55 at my cousin's house when i was very young (they also had a Mighty Crusuaders game and MMMS stuff also). I didn't really get into the collecting/paying attention side until '71 or so. JLA was one of my first choices as a Christmas gift/subscription and i remember getting those 25 cent issues in the mail.
Favorite JLA/JSA team up would probably be 100-102, with all those heroes how could it not be?
Least favorite, probably #46-47, just because of the Batman-centric theme.
My favorite era is probably the Wein issues, with great Dillin/Giordano artwork. Dillin inked by McLaughlin lacked something, but i liked Giordano and Greene. Englehart comes in next, followed by the workman "get the issues out" Fox and Conway eras.
The most ironic part of JLA fandom had to be a review in the Comic Reader saying that Dillin had to go, "replace him with anyone, but hopefully someone like George Perez" and having Dick die the next month.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 23:18:42 GMT -5
I kind like the Justice League during the Satellite Run, and the Justice League during the Morrison Run, and the Original Justice League - that was started by Brave and the Bold #28 that featured - Starro the Conqueror. My favorite Justice Leaguer - Martian Manhunter and Green (Hal Jordan) Lantern. My least favorite Justice Leaguer - Gypsy and Faith, does anyone remember her?
Faith
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 23:42:04 GMT -5
My favorite Justice Leaguer - Martian Manhunter
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2014 23:59:41 GMT -5
My favorite Justice Leaguer - Martian Manhunter Thanks, he's one of the kind!
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 27, 2015 18:38:01 GMT -5
I decided to resurrect the JLA thread to talk about the Royal Flush Gang.
I love the Royal Flush Gang! And the more I learn about them, the more I am fascinated by them.
Even though I didn't read that many DC comics when I was first reading comics, I knew about the Royal Flush Gang because of Joker #5. I love the old Joker series! And #5 is another great issue, and I thought the Royal Flush Gang was pretty cool, as themed DC villains go.
And then, I saw Hi-Jack in several issues of The Secret Society of Super-Villains. He was just a minor player in that infamous sardine-can of a comic book, but he was pretty neat.
And a few years after that, I FINALLY started reading JLA semi-regularly with JLA #203, partly for the Royal Flush Gang and partly for the Don Heck art.
And then just a few years ago, I picked up those issues of JLA Classified with both versions of the Royal Flush Gang taking on the Detroit League.
Anyway, just last week, I purchased JLA #43 (the Royal Flush Gang's first appearance) from Comixology and read it online and it was pretty cool! There's good old Amos Fortune and his disreputable cronies all flailing about in those wonderful Mike Sekowsky poses, having a blast.
I was doing a little research and I'm having trouble figuring some things out. Because they're a group instead of a single person, it's hard to find an index of their appearances that's clear cut. (At least I couldn't find a simple list on the Comic Book Database.) Is it true that the Silver Age Royal Flush Gang only appeared twice prior to 1970? And that Joker #5 is only the third appearance of the Royal Flush Gang?
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Post by Farrar on Oct 27, 2015 19:12:59 GMT -5
I decided to resurrect the JLA thread to talk about the Royal Flush Gang. I love the Royal Flush Gang! And the more I learn about them, the more I am fascinated by them. Even though I didn't read that many DC comics when I was first reading comics, I knew about the Royal Flush Gang because of Joker #5. I love the old Joker series! And #5 is another great issue, and I thought the Royal Flush Gang was pretty cool, as themed DC villains go. And then, I saw Hi-Jack in several issues of The Secret Society of Super-Villains. He was just a minor player in that infamous sardine-can of a comic book, but he was pretty neat. And a few years after that, I FINALLY started reading JLA semi-regularly with JLA #203, partly for the Royal Flush Gang and partly for the Don Heck art. And then just a few years ago, I picked up those issues of JLA Classified with both versions of the Royal Flush Gang taking on the Detroit League. Anyway, just last week, I purchased JLA #43 (the Royal Flush Gang's first appearance) from Comixology and read it online and it was pretty cool! There's good old Amos Fortune and his disreputable cronies all flailing about in those wonderful Mike Sekowsky poses, having a blast. I was doing a little research and I'm having trouble figuring some things out. Because they're a group instead of a single person, it's hard to find an index of their appearances that's clear cut. (At least I couldn't find a simple list on the Comic Book Database.) Is it true that the Silver Age Royal Flush Gang only appeared twice prior to 1970? And that Joker #5 is only the third appearance of the Royal Flush Gang? Hoosier, try Mike's Amazing World of DC, it contains character appearances (and much, much more. Invaluable site). Here's a link to the entry for the Royal Flush Gang...the answer to your questions about the group's appearances seems to be "yes." www.dcindexes.com/features/character.php?page=appearances&characterid=442Link to Justice League of America #43 entry www.dcindexes.com/features/story.php?storyid=11711
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Post by Hoosier X on Oct 27, 2015 19:14:30 GMT -5
I was just reading JLA #43 again and I just noticed something. At the part where Amos Fortune (in shadow because he's not revealed until the last page) as the Ace of Spades is explaining the discovery of stellaration and the origin of the Royal Flush Gang, there's a panel that shows the group way in the past when they were a gang, presumably as teens, but I think it implies that they are all about the same age. Yet when they are shown in the recent past, the woman is young and pretty - She looks like Elizabeth Taylor - three of the gang (including Amos Fortune) look to be about 30 or 40, and one of the guys (the Ten of Spades) looks like he's 60 or 70! He must have done some hard time in the intervening years! And the Queen of Spades might have good genes and has taken care of herself. I'm reading it leisurely. I was looking through the JLA Classified issues a few days ago and I may dig out Joker #5. Somebody should write an Internet history of the Royal Flush Gang to help me figure this out! I think the gang in Joker #5 is the same as the gang in JLA #43 (except for the Ace of Spades because I'm pretty sure that's not Amos Fortune in Joker #5) and I think Hi-Jack in the Secret Society of Super-Villains is the same as the Jack of Spades in both JLA #43 and Joker #5. But I'm not sure.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Oct 27, 2015 19:15:32 GMT -5
The did a really great version of the Royal Flush gang in Batman Beyond... if you like them, you should check it out (the cartoon, not the comic.. or maybe the comic too)
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